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Mira:
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Mentors in the HJ are typically the ones you see set the Hero on a Path. We don't see much of that in Dresden, except from Mab. Maybe Lea (and we certainly see that with her relationship to Molly in Ghost Story), too. Eb's role is informed, not really shown. For the most part, Harry's set his own path.
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I disagree, if you go back and read how Harry speaks of Eb. He is his ideal wizard, all the ethics Harry has as far as magic goes is due to him. Harry was an angry kid with one foot on the path towards warlockhood, Eb turned that all around, not unlike Obi-Wan.
Con:
--- Quote from: Mira on February 14, 2020, 05:25:29 AM --- I disagree, if you go back and read how Harry speaks of Eb. He is his ideal wizard, all the ethics Harry has as far as magic goes is due to him. Harry was an angry kid with one foot on the path towards warlockhood, Eb turned that all around, not unlike Obi-Wan.
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I'm with Mira. Ebenezar is where Harry gets his ethics, his code his belief in Magic and his purpose to defend people from magical and supernatural elements. It's why he took finding out about the Blackstaff so personally, he agonises over it from Blood Rites through to Proven Guilty when he realises Ebenezar saved his life during his original trial, and Doom of Damocles.
morriswalters:
Nick Christian and his father Malcolm. And perhaps nick Cristian more then Eb. Because of what he decided to do and at what cost.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on February 14, 2020, 11:29:53 PM ---Nick Christian and his father Malcolm. And perhaps nick Cristian more then Eb. Because of what he decided to do and at what cost.
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Growing up and coming of age people have more than one mentor. Harry doesn't talk about Nick
Cristian that much, yeah, he perhaps learned his detective craft under him, that makes him a mentor, but he never goes back to Nick for advice, at least not on paper. Harry's early memories of Malcolm form his a bit, joy in the simple things, love, but he wasn't in Harry's more formative years to be considered a mentor. Justin taught Harry magic, the pain, the power, the brute force of it, he learned no subtlety from him, though that might merely be the quality of his magic since Elaine according to Harry is much more controlled and subtle. Then again, Justin might have taught them differently. Justin definitely counts as a mentor. As I said, Eb is the Obi-Wan in Harry's life, because he didn't teach mere magic like Justin, Harry had already learned that, Eb taught him what magic is. Harry goes back again and again to the more mystical aspects of magic, this is what caused his pentacle to light up and burn Bianca.. This he got from Eb, until Blood Rights Harry speaks of Eb in referent tones. A more recent mentor is Rashid, from him I believe Harry will learn how to combat the Enemy.
123Chikadee:
Yeah, I'm not much of a fan of the Hero's Journey either. It's actually more of a basic 'what I've noticed in various folklore and myth' rather than a piece of advice that writers need to use. Technically, Harry doesn't quite fit the mold, but the Hero's Journey is more guidelines than actual rules.
I do wish we could see more of Eb with Young!Harry, but yeah. Mab, Lea, Nick, Justin, Malcolm. All of them act as mentors as well.
Oooh, it'd be very cool if Rashid did act as a mentor for Harry.
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