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Bad Alias:
The Dresden Files starts after Harry encounters his mentor and has perhaps already crossed the threshold. Honestly, the mentor in Storm Front is the film canister under the bed. There is probably a "mentor" moment in each book, and I don't think it's ever been Eb. Maybe, maybe, in Changes. Eb isn't Harry's "mentor" in the actual books. He's Harry's "mentor" in the Dresden Files prequel.
I've never been a big fan of "the Hero's Journey." It's always seemed like a horoscope description of plot. Vague enough to fit most all circumstances without being specific enough to be helpful or useful.
tacorrific:
It sounds like Eb may have had a run in with a cornerhound before, but we don't know when that was. It could have been before Eb was the badass he is today or it could have gotten the drop on him before he knew what he was up against. The remembered fear of a close call would be hard to completely ignore, hence the shaking.
Kindler:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on January 30, 2020, 03:58:44 AM ---The Dresden Files starts after Harry encounters his mentor and has perhaps already crossed the threshold. Honestly, the mentor in Storm Front is the film canister under the bed. There is probably a "mentor" moment in each book, and I don't think it's ever been Eb. Maybe, maybe, in Changes. Eb isn't Harry's "mentor" in the actual books. He's Harry's "mentor" in the Dresden Files prequel.
I've never been a big fan of "the Hero's Journey." It's always seemed like a horoscope description of plot. Vague enough to fit most all circumstances without being specific enough to be helpful or useful.
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Ditto on both counts. I don't really see Eb as much of a mentor, because about 99.5% of his mentorship is informed rather than shown; it's all off-page.
Nor do I really see the Dresden Files truly matching a Hero's Journey anyway. For one, it starts off with Dresden too far along in his career, abilities, and personality/idealism for it to truly apply, in my opinion.
If anyone is Harry's mentor in the books, on the page, I'd say it's Mab, actually.
Mira:
Justin was Harry's mentor as far as magic goes, he trained him after all. However all the values
Harry holds about what magic means he got from Eb, Harry states that. That is why he was so upset when he found out that Eb was the Blackstaff, an assassin, to Harry it flew in the face of all the values Eb taught him, what Eb stood for. Yes, Eb was a very important mentor to Harry, he is the one who made Harry the man he is today.
Kindler:
In the context of a Hero's Journey, it's the mentor you see that matters.
Uncle Owen taught Luke everything he knew, and presumably raised him to be a good guy. It worked. But Luke's first Hero's Journey Mentor is Obi-Wan, not his Aunt or Uncle.
Tavi's mentors are first Bernard (who we do see doing some mentoring) and later Gaius.
Mentors in the HJ are typically the ones you see set the Hero on a Path. We don't see much of that in Dresden, except from Mab. Maybe Lea (and we certainly see that with her relationship to Molly in Ghost Story), too. Eb's role is informed, not really shown. For the most part, Harry's set his own path.
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