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g33k:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on January 27, 2020, 12:30:09 AM --- I've never read Lovecraft.  I don't generally care for horror as the real world scratches that particular itch.
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Ditto, more or less.

I think I read one of his shorts (in an anthology I was reading) many many years ago.  Also don't play CoC the RPG, except on a rare occasion when it's the game my group is playing, and I just play along; maybe 5ish times in total?

But I do look into the Mythos, sometimes... such as when DF is making clear Mythos references!  ;-)

Avernite:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on January 27, 2020, 12:30:09 AM ---I've never read Lovecraft.  I don't generally care for horror as the real world scratches that particular itch.

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To be honest I didn't find it too horrible - as a non-native speakers, many of the more arcane words to describe certain horribleness just didn't come across as bad. You get a few stories where the horror is deeper (and thereby still comes across) but sometimes the horror is not much worse than 'oh the horror, those people interbred with other human 'races''  ::)

Kindler:
Lovecraft isn't horror, it's Cosmic Horror. It targets a different fear response: inevitability and madness rather than sheer terror. Also helplessness; there's virtually nothing the protagonists can do most of the time. How are you supposed to stop Azathoth? You're not. The good news is that Azathoth doesn't notice you anyway, because he's taking a nap. If he wakes up, the universe ends. Better hope he stays asleep.

It's kinda like knowing about gamma ray bursts. Life on Earth could randomly come to an end one day if a star halfway across the Milky Way goes supernova. There is literally nothing anyone here can do to prevent that (though there's also nothing anyone here can do to cause that either).

The most hopeful stories in the Cthulhu Mythos (the collective works of many authors) are usually the ones with human antagonists rather than Things From Beyond. Sometimes it's stuff like "there's a cult trying to summon or awaken a Thing, protagonist finds out about it, temporarily thwarts the plan, and must live with the knowledge that anyone else could pick up and complete the rite whenever they want." Then there's the "group of people who Bred With Something They Shouldn't Have" kind of stories (Innsmouth stuff). Those are usually all right, too.

And yeah, obviously Jim needed a new Monster. But having one that appears to be based off of an existing creature and stating that it's an Outsider is extremely interesting. I'm already smelling tinfoil. It all depends on how much of the source material for the Cornerhound (if indeed Hounds of Tindalos are the source for the Dresden creature) Jim wants to keep. We'll know based on either Eb's/Bonea's/Someone Else's exposition or Harry's internal narration: if it mentions Time at all, then hold onto your butts.

morriswalters:

--- Quote ---Lovecraft isn't horror, it's Cosmic Horror. It targets a different fear response: inevitability and madness rather than sheer terror.
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So I assumed, thus my comment on the real world.  I like stories with hope. 

Yuillegan:
Kindler, great argument!

I quite like the sobering nature of Lovecraft, and would find it both amusing and interesting if Jim pulled a fast one on us and for example revealed that TWG is Azahoth or something. He almost certainly won't, but it would be quite funny.

Mostly I think beings like Azahoth are analogous to the Old Ones (dresdenverse - can we really say that if they exist outside his Creation...?) and TWG/Creator/Almighty seems above or at least more than equal to them. But it will be interesting to see how it all plays out. I do find it interesting how much DnD is in there though, although almost certainly Jim has combined the Demons of the Abyss with that of the Far Realm to create the Outsiders.

To my mind, they gave us this scene (with this particular monster) for a reason. They want us to think about it. It wasn't just by accident - which says to me that this monster isn't going to be just a run of the mill, in this scene and never again type of problem. They could have given us any scene with many other types of villains. But they chose this.

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