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toodeep:
I think a key point to keeping Peabody from reeking of black magic was that while he “wired” all these people to give him control over them, he didn’t activate them until Turn Coat (that we know of). It may be like throwing fire all day long every day – its not black magic until the fire kills someone. So the act of loading them up with mental control “software” might not be black magic until the software is activated.
Kindler:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on January 18, 2020, 01:39:20 AM ---Well, I am pretty sure Drakul is also an Outsider but anyway - it might no be a 'basic' monster, but it seems like a relatively low-level Outsider, which Goblins and other Fae seemed to be able to kill.
And from what Jim has said about Eb, he was even wilder and more gung-ho than Harry!
Unless the Cornerhound is specifically deadly in a certain way to Wizards or something, I don't really see why Eb would be more afraid in this situation than taking on Vampires or Demons or Faeries etc.
EDIT: (click to show/hide)The Cornerhound when googled comes up with "Hounds of Tindalos". This is highly interesting. Hounds of Tindalos are Lovecraftian beasts that are too foul to be described, but vaguely hound-like. Interestingly, they inhabit the angles of time, whereas humans inhabit the curves. Once a human is known to one of these creatures, they will pursue it through anything. A person risks attracting their attention by travelling through time. Corners have angles. I would be willing to bet these are the same creatures. Which WOULD make them more deadly than a regular Outsider. And they are terrifying. But if they are interested in Dresden or Eb, one of them might have time-travelled this book! We might see evidence of Time Travel this book! And its does materialise in a sever angle; a corner - which is how the Hounds of Tindalos appear.
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Came here to mention Hounds of Tindalos. "Cornerhound" sounds like a slang description of one of those bad boys.
Mira:
--- Quote from: toodeep on January 22, 2020, 07:20:58 PM ---I think a key point to keeping Peabody from reeking of black magic was that while he “wired” all these people to give him control over them, he didn’t activate them until Turn Coat (that we know of). It may be like throwing fire all day long every day – its not black magic until the fire kills someone. So the act of loading them up with mental control “software” might not be black magic until the software is activated.
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That sounds like a plausible theory.. It fits with mine that the ink was deadening those areas of the mind that would detect manipulation, also behavior. It is no secret that certain drugs can have a huge influence over brain chemistry. That was the plan, and who better to carry it out than the secretary wizard who constantly needed senior wizards to sign and read his endless paperwork?
Kindler:
Some of this stuff is spoiler-ish, but most of it is borderline. Read at your own risk.
By the way, if you like super weird, uncomfortable satire/humor, there's this series of videos by the comedy group Wham City. It's called the Children of the Mirror. I promise the concept of Hounds of Tindalos is crucial to understanding what the hell is going on in this series (which follows the True Art is Incomprehensible trope pretty well while also maintaining surface level entertainment):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFw0b8t4ICM&list=PLmu6JBK17BzjH0HBjhdUXc2IfrCRQGhcD
Interesting bit is that the Hounds weren't in Lovecraft's original works, but were added in by a different author, Frank Long, one of Lovecraft's good friends. I think it was the first time HP let someone else write for his setting. Lovecraft canonized it (what is and what is not canon in Lovecraftian fiction is always debatable, because so many other authors contributed to the universe over the past hundred-ish years. Pretty much EVERYTHING is canon as far as I'm concerned, Derleth's attempt at codification be damned) at some point a few years later in one of his longer pieces. I forget which.
Anyway, the Hounds are entities that are pretty much the perfect Pursuit Predator. If you catch the attention of one of them, they will hunt you FOREVER. There is basically zero escape. They can travel through any sharp-ish angle (hence, I assume, Eb's use of the term "Cornerhound"), like the end of a hallway.
You wanna know the best part? The really awesome, tinfoil-hattish part? The way you catch their attention is by traveling through f*&^ing time. The presence of one (or more) during Peace Talks is going to launch thousands of Time Travel WAGs (unless it's explained thoroughly in the book. Just saying "Ah, a mortal must've summoned one" won't be enough).
I mean... why specifically one of those, even if it's an Outsider? It's one of just three named Outsiders in 15 books—Walkers, Nemesis, and Cornerhounds (the "mistfiend" from Turn Coat I took to be a Nevernever creature that had been infused with Mordite rather than an Outsider itself. If it is indeed a true Outsider, then it's four). You very rarely hear Eb (or anyone, really) talk about different species or categories of Outsiders, just kinda "oh, that was an Outsider." Harry describes the scene at the Outer Gates as one in which most of those fighting have too little in common to really categorize. So I posit that if Eb can recognize this particular type of Outsider on sight, it must have appeared on the mortal plane often enough to warrant naming beyond "Outsider, Type 87645."
Kindler:
I'd also like to point out that it took me a solid five minutes to realize that Eb was using a super dated term for "Yeah, most likely" when he says, "Belike." I seriously thought he was confirming that a specific person or entity was responsible for what they were seeing. Like Batman talking to Robin.
The green paint splattered across the wall, and Robin could still hear echoes of laughter.
"Is that what I think it is?" Robin asked.
"Joker," Batman confirmed.
I spent five minutes racking my brain for any previous mention of a Dresden villain named Belike. Kept thinking of Belloq from Indiana Jones.
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