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Peace talks excerpt indications
AClone:
I'm hoping that Harry and Ebenezer commenting that a Senior Council member getting torn apart would make it look like the Fomor are trying to sabotage the peace talks means that Eb won't get torn apart by Outsiders...
I'm also hoping that by now Harry has told Eb that he has two grandsons.
--- Quote from: didymos on February 23, 2020, 05:47:38 AM ---Something I think has been overlooked:
(click to show/hide)Why hasn't this psychic assault thingy happened when Outsiders have entered our world previously in the series? Eb acts like it's a usual thing, but it's not. Is it just something the Cornerhound did deliberately?
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I kinda curious when Harry has been in the immediate vicinity at other times that Outsiders have been summoned into the world--like, across the street. I don't recall any. From what I recall, the ones he's seen were previously summoned off page.
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on February 25, 2020, 04:41:03 PM ---My bet is either Harry gets out of it or this. I'm leaning towards this. I think that was the whole point of the scene. I know Jim has said that Harry's deal to become the Winter Knight overrode his "three favors" deal, but that's not what happened in the books. I don't know if Jim is lying to throw us off or misremembering because it's not important to him since he doesn't plan on Harry getting out of the Mantle that way.
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In the books Mab tells Harry that if he accepts the job of Winter Knight, that she'll forgive out the remaining favors that he owes. So I'm not sure what you think Jim is lying about or misremembering. I think there were two left when she says that, but when Harry finally took the mantle, there was still one remaining. He has tasks to do for her now, not owed "favors".
Yuillegan:
--- Quote from: didymos on February 23, 2020, 05:47:38 AM ---Something I think has been overlooked:
(click to show/hide)Why hasn't this psychic assault thingy happened when Outsiders have entered our world previously in the series? Eb acts like it's a usual thing, but it's not. Is it just something the Cornerhound did deliberately?
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AClone is right on this...I don't believe Harry has been around when Outsiders have been summoned, with the notable exception of HWWBh in the Raith Deeps. He wasn't around for the first summoning by Justin, nor for HWWBf's summoning, nor the one's summoned during the war with the Red Court, nor the summoning of the Mistfiend (although debateable if that is an Outsider).
However quite often Outsiders are accompanied by a massive mental whammy, the one that possess' Vittorio had a huge mental attack, as did Before. Curiously, it also accompanied the Evil Eye (Malacchio) - but in a different form. Harry only noticed when the energy passed through him. He also believed it either marked and/or changed him (but that's another thread).
I notice that Harry talk about nightmares in this passage. The Night of Bad Dreams followed the destruction of the Red Court via a powerful act of black magic. It also has occurred at other times of darkness in the series. Make of that what you will.
Avernite:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on April 09, 2020, 02:53:38 AM ---I notice that Harry talk about nightmares in this passage. The Night of Bad Dreams followed the destruction of the Red Court via a powerful act of black magic. It also has occurred at other times of darkness in the series. Make of that what you will.
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I think that's an unwarranted expansion of the term black magic; sure it was death-fuelled, but no actual humans were murdered by magic there (they were murdered for magic).
So I believe it didn't technically violate any of the Laws.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Avernite on April 09, 2020, 06:18:43 AM ---I think that's an unwarranted expansion of the term black magic; sure it was death-fuelled, but no actual humans were murdered by magic there (they were murdered for magic).
So I believe it didn't technically violate any of the Laws.
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I agree, it was the vamps that Harry killed, it also killed the vamp part of the half turned, those who were young enough reverted back to being full human, alive and well. Those who were old, essentially died of old age. So no humans were murdered..
123Chikadee:
Maybe Eb looses the Blackstaff in PT, weakening him but not killing him. That way he can die later in the BAT. Harry could pick up the Blackstaff in the heat of the moment and drive the baddies back. Though once the dust settles the Council will want the staff to give it someone who isn't Harry, and depending on his experiences with the staff, he might let them have it.
I think the non-overlap of skillsets for the WC is gonna be a big plot point.
I'm not sure if Harry will have the Winter Mantle and the Blackstaff, I know I don't have anything other than a feeling about it, but I think the staff could go to someone else. Maybe Carlos.
If not Eb, who else on the WC could die in his place?
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