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Peace Talks snippet on Entertainment Weekly
123Chikadee:
@SirHuonStone: No, you're right that is why he's afraid of Mab, but my theory as to how/why he got the info is b/c it was knowledge that he inherited from her and she couldn't fully control him for whatever reason.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Arjan on January 23, 2020, 09:09:35 AM ---I believe that was later changed and Bob started much the same way as bonea did.
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I recall this. It was something along the lines of "that's where spirits of intellect come from."
Bob probably knows some old Celtic languages. He's quite familiar with faeries and faeries are very Celtic. Harry is friends with the king of the Welsh fairies, the Tylwyth Teg.
And who says Merlin's journals are in Welsh? If I had to bet, I'd say they were more likely in Greek or Latin. Whatever was the lingua franca of the time.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on January 25, 2020, 07:15:53 PM ---I recall this. It was something along the lines of "that's where spirits of intellect come from."
Bob probably knows some old Celtic languages. He's quite familiar with faeries and faeries are very Celtic. Harry is friends with the king of the Welsh fairies, the Tylwyth Teg.
And who says Merlin's journals are in Welsh? If I had to bet, I'd say they were more likely in Greek or Latin. Whatever was the lingua franca of the time.
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Latin was the language of the church and the old empire that was gone but old welsh was actually the language of everyone on the kingdom(s) where Merlin operated.
But why would he use latin for his personal diaries? His mothers tongue would be far more logical.
It depends on what Jim does with the stories but the oldest stories suggest bardic roots:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myrddin
Harry might get impossible to read bardic poetry with hidden meanings depending on a context long gone. The stuff is as usefull as Jim wants it to be.
Or it is full with prophesies specially meant for Harry, only with a clear meaning after the facts of course :-)
g33k:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on January 25, 2020, 07:15:53 PM --- ... And who says Merlin's journals are in Welsh? If I had to bet, I'd say they were more likely in Greek or Latin. Whatever was the lingua franca of the time.
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In the Mediterranean, sure!
But not in the British Isles. Almost no Greek, and only a small amount of Latin, which was dying out post-conquest as the Romans had largely withdrawn by 410AD.
Arthur was in the tumultuous post-Roman era. Latin was limited to being a liturgical/church language (which emphatically was not Merlin's background or allegiance! Folklorically, Merlin came from the people FIGHTING the Romans (and the Christian church!))
If we want to get pedantic: Old Welsh is probably too recent to be Merlin's mother tongue! ;) The Celtic arrival in Britain is recent enough that their language hasn't yet split up much... the Picts still control Scotland, it isn't "Scottish" (Celtic) at all, and the "Welsh" are still culturally and linguistically contiguous with most of southern Britain.
Merlin spoke...
... wait for it ...
"British." That's one of the (several) names given to the language spoken by the tribes of Celts who were all "Britons." Aka "Old Brythonic" and "Common Brittonic" and several other labels.
The Welsh language fragmented from Brythonic into what became "Archaic" or "Primitive" Welsh, which then became "Old Welsh," which I think becomes the Welsh "mother tongue" about 800AD, which is AFAIK well after the Arthur/Merlin era.
morriswalters:
Read Chapter Fourteen of Turn coat. If Merlin Founded the Council then he did it somewhere other than Britain, at least according to Jim.
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