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Denarians and/or Circle in Storm Front?

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Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: g33k on December 18, 2019, 07:27:07 AM ---But it could also have been Papa Raith, who seems to have had a copy of the spell (was planning to use it on Thomas and Harry, to break Mama-Maggie's death-curse).

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He wasn't planning to use the heart-ripper in BR. Thomas was going to be the blood sacrifice to point HWWBh's entropy curse at Harry ... because Lord Raith is a complexity addict who just couldn't do the job with two bullets.

That said, he very well might have also been setting Sells up with spells from his black magic library. Sells' employer sounded like a white court punny front company name, in hindsight.

Kindler:

--- Quote from: Snark Knight on December 20, 2019, 12:16:52 AM --- because Lord Raith is a complexity addict who just couldn't do the job with two bullets.

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This is especially glaring when you consider that he was already at the point where he was getting his hands dirty. He personally captured Murphy and Harry, so it's not like he was hiding behind eighteen layers of cutouts and pawns anymore. Just... just shoot them in the head. Bam. You win!

Bond Villain Stupidity indeed. HE EVEN LEAVES THE ROOM!

Mira:



   Oh yeah, someone from the Circle guided a depressed Victor Sells to those books in the first
place.   I also doubt that he thought up the idea to cook up the Three Eye to addict kids. Also
someone had to introduce him to the Beckitts, and they had to further be convinced to get
involved in a sex orgy to call up a frog demon and power a spell to rip out the hearts of a couple
they had never met miles away.   I believe what Harry said about what happened to Victor was
true, black magic is addictive and he was in over his head from the beginning.  Having said that
he was a mere tool,  it was no accident as to who was targeted to set up a chain reaction so Bianca
would be further inspired as she was at the party in Grave Peril.  I doubt that Lord Raith had anything to do with any of that.   His family branch of the White Court is much more subtle than
that, the whole series of events in Storm Front is just to messy for them to be a part of it. 

morriswalters:

--- Quote from: Kindler on December 30, 2019, 09:21:46 PM ---This is especially glaring when you consider that he was already at the point where he was getting his hands dirty. He personally captured Murphy and Harry, so it's not like he was hiding behind eighteen layers of cutouts and pawns anymore. Just... just shoot them in the head. Bam. You win!

Bond Villain Stupidity indeed. HE EVEN LEAVES THE ROOM!

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Bond villain stupidity works, because if didn't Bond would die in the first act.  Raith makes Lara look  oh so much more dangerous by acting like a Bond villain. She's smart and he's stupid. Maggie stuck it to him on the way out the door, and twisted. And smiled, even though she knew she was f**ked.  All the women in his life did what they did because he was a pompous ass.

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: Mira on December 31, 2019, 12:15:24 PM ---Having said that he was a mere tool,  it was no accident as to who was targeted to set up a chain reaction so Bianca would be further inspired as she was at the party in Grave Peril.  I doubt that Lord Raith had anything to do with any of that.   His family branch of the White Court is much more subtle than
that, the whole series of events in Storm Front is just to messy for them to be a part of it.

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Are you suggesting Bianca's employee was the real target there? I thought she was collateral damage of attacking Marcone's lieutenant - Sells' whole turf war was with Marcone.

The 'two-fer' being deliberate would have required careful timing to strike just as they were intimate enough to get both with one use of the curse. I kind of doubt Sells would have been up to prepping the curse ritual and spying through shadows on them to time it that closely.

And, granted, exploding hearts is a bit overt for Lord Raith. But if his involvement was to give Sells some black magic spell books and point him at Marcone, he might not have been micromanaging the particulars of how Sells went about it. It's more important that the proxy not be tied back to him than that the proxy works particularly elegantly himself. The Circle master could readily have been Cowl, too, though.

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