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Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mira on December 26, 2019, 04:21:57 PM ---   There is also a little matter of jurisdiction,  this is the Kingdom of Hades.  Remember what he said
about Deidre's punishment?  So I really doubt that Nic could just go back in there and dig it out.

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That is Deirdre, he won't get her back. But a denarion coin might be something else.

And the whole thing is also a test. He can take what he wants if he can get away with it, if he proves himself. If Hades wanted to make the mission impossible he could have done so.

Bad Alias:
Anduriel/Nic's shadow has interacted with physical objects. It's possible that Nic's shadow could stretch out down through the rocks to grab the coin.

My problem is that I don't think he could do that past the molten rocks. Molten means either liquefied rocks or red hot rocks, with the first being the more common meaning. I think the first would be an almost 100% barrier. I think the second is something like a 75% barrier.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on December 27, 2019, 04:13:53 AM ---Anduriel/Nic's shadow has interacted with physical objects. It's possible that Nic's shadow could stretch out down through the rocks to grab the coin.

My problem is that I don't think he could do that past the molten rocks. Molten means either liquefied rocks or red hot rocks, with the first being the more common meaning. I think the first would be an almost 100% barrier. I think the second is something like a 75% barrier.

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Except that things like probability are not really reliable around theses things. The coins want to be found. It is entirely possible that 98% of Hannah was covered with molten rock and that the coin was not.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Arjan on December 27, 2019, 06:08:52 AM ---Except that things like probability are not really reliable around theses things. The coins want to be found. It is entirely possible that 98% of Hannah was covered with molten rock and that the coin was not.

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  Possible, with Nic grabbing it without anyone noticing and taking it with him.  However I don't see  Nic returning to Hades for it.  It may also be possible that Hades has it in his possession, in that case
in my opinion no one else is going to get it.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Mira on December 27, 2019, 07:44:36 PM ---  Possible, with Nic grabbing it without anyone noticing and taking it with him.  However I don't see  Nic returning to Hades for it.  It may also be possible that Hades has it in his possession, in that case
in my opinion no one else is going to get it.
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Agreed, Nic won't return to Hades' vault.

But recall how he hid and retreated at the end of the fight with Michael & Harry?  Emphasis on "hid," for our purposes:  he vanished from BOTH their views, mid-combat.

I think that demonstrates that Anduriel could cloak Nic during... say... the Dresden vs. Denarian-Gen duel.  The big guy was flinging so much rock, collapsing columns, etc... Harry would likely not have noticed a careful and subtle effort by the Master of Shadows.

That's Lasciel, in the bag!  Besides... If that WASN'T what he was doing... He was doing something even worse (because Nicodemus).

Then he lurks after the chase, sees Roadkill Gen, and gives the Good Guys a moment to get clear; then moves in to score Ursiel for the twofer.

And we saw how fast he could move, in his dash through the Gate & to the vault-door (where he paused to taunt Harry (& Michael)).

I honestly don't even consider this a WAG, just a most-likely course of events.

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