The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Which mortal might become nemfected?
morriswalters:
He may have rejected what Lash was selling but he couldn't reject the Shadow since she was a part of him. You might as well say I reject my brain. In this case rejected equals rid. This is the context.
--- Quote from: Small Favor ---“Then either the shadow is still there,” Michael said, “still twisting your thoughts. Still whispering to you. Or you’re lying to me about taking up the coin. Those are the only options.”
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Michael erred in stating it as an absolute. But he is discussing presence rather than resistance. In White Knight, in the cave during the final fight, Harry uses Hellfire.
--- Quote from: White Knight ---My will lashed out, leashed to Lasciel's Hellfire, and rushed upon the ghouls, exploding in a sphere of raw force that blazed with flickers of sulfurous flame.
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And even in that final moment, Lash is still selling, until the clock runs out and she has to choose.
Mira:
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What could happen -- what DID happen -- was the shadow, trying to change Harry, became changed itself.
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Point is, it was no longer Lasciel... She became Lash. Lasciel, herself wasn't always evil, there was a time before the rebellion and the fall when she was like any other angel. A part of her still longs for what she can no longer have, her shadow expressed that to Harry in a couple of ways. Once in Proven Guilty when Harry was exhausted in St Marys and the Shadow still more Lasciel than Lash, exclaims with some emotion that she had forgotten how beautiful it could be in such a place. Another when she helped Harry with his music, again regret since the fall she no longer was able to make music. Harry is a flawed and complex man, he is no goodie two shoes as we all know, but what is repeatedly said about him, is that he has a good heart, he is like his father in that way. That is how he resisted and ultimately changed Lasciel to Lash by exposing her to what she had lost, she ceased to feel bitter and angry about it, she felt only regret, in the end it was she who rejected Lasciel.
g33k:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on December 13, 2019, 11:17:16 AM --- ... In this case rejected equals rid...
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Ah.
In that case we'll have to agree to disagree.
morriswalters:
I wish I understood exactly what the disagreement was. I guess it's a matter of semantics. While I agree that Harry resisted Lash until she died, at no time did he reject her. In fact he used her and what she had to give him, while rejecting her inducements to take up the coin. And he invested enough emotion into who she became to produce a child. However as you wish.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on December 13, 2019, 09:20:21 PM ---I wish I understood exactly what the disagreement was. I guess it's a matter of semantics. While I agree that Harry resisted Lash until she died, at no time did he reject her. In fact he used her and what she had to give him, while rejecting her inducements to take up the coin. And he invested enough emotion into who she became to produce a child. However as you wish.
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He was able to resist her, his arguments against some of her tactics, though he also used her, changed her over time. Being inside his brain changed her because it made her remember the good things before Lasciel fell, miss them, in the end she agreed with Harry's rejection of what Lasciel was selling, and in turn she rejected it and paid the ultimate price for it.
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