The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Elaine, Trojan Horse? "It was the knife..."
Mira:
--- Quote ---What else could have happened to her, given her talent? But as with most things there is what he meant to do and what he did do. And he did what Mab said, even if it wasn't his intention.
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Twisted by Mab you mean, she played on Harry's over active guilt complex. Molly may have engaged in hero worship, but Harry never encouraged it, given Charity's feeling towards him he kept a pretty quiet profile at Michael's house. He had no way of knowing Molly had talent at all, he never knew about her mother until Molly's talent did come out. Once it did, he recognized where she was heading and was the one who got her to turn herself in.
morriswalters:
You can't twist something if there isn't anything there to twist. In Proven Guilty JB will open with a trial. Where Harry will complain about the the Councils lack of outreach to young people coming into their power. Yet Molly happens right under his nose. And as I said, intentions don't matter, what matters are outcomes. It's one thing to make decisions knowing that it will impact people, it is an altogether different thing to blunder into them like a bull in a china shop. Which is pre changes Harry.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on October 30, 2019, 12:40:45 PM ---You can't twist something if there isn't anything there to twist. In Proven Guilty JB will open with a trial. Where Harry will complain about the the Councils lack of outreach to young people coming into their power. Yet Molly happens right under his nose. And as I said, intentions don't matter, what matters are outcomes. It's one thing to make decisions knowing that it will impact people, it is an altogether different thing to blunder into them like a bull in a china shop. Which is pre changes Harry.
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Really? Right under his nose? First all, Harry isn't living at the Carpenter house, so no daily contact with Molly. From the sound of it, it might have even been a year or two since he saw her given the physical changes from pubescent young teen at thirteen or fourteen, to brick outhouse shaped sixteen year old.. When she calls from jail, the first thing she tells him is there has been a lot of trouble at home, mainly between her and her parents, as in Molly in full rebellion. No confession about using black magic yet, Harry tries to do the right thing by returning her to her parents. Harry had been avoiding Michael for a couple of years because of Lasciel.
So, under Harry's nose? No, nor did Molly say anything to him about her budding talent, it isn't until after she is rescued and safe at Father Forthills, that she begins to tell him about it, her abilty to do a veil for example, then instead of going to him for help and to ask questions, she choses to Barns&Noble for books on the subject, but they do not cover the Laws of Magic as set down by the White Council. Molly then proceeds to apply her own moral judgement coupled with ignorance to go into the mind of her friend to stop his drug addiction.. Which sends her down the primrose warlock path and turns her friend's brain to mush.
Harry again does the right thing as soon as she confesses to take her before the White Council, he then puts it all on the line for her, which is literally his head to save hers.
1] Harry hadn't seen Molly in a couple of years, he hadn't been to the Carpenter home, he hadn't talked to Michael. 2] When Molly discovered her talent, she chose not to look up the only wizard she knew to ask questions, she went to Barns&Noble instead. 3] Since Harry had no clue about Charity and the road she almost took, he would have no reason to be on the lookout for it showing up in her kids. Since before it reared it's ugly head, Charity would not allow such a subject to be objective debated in her house, the dangers of unsupervised talent just wouldn't have come up. Also until it almost cost her daughter her head, Charity wouldn't have allowed Harry to supervise Molly in the first place. No, none of this takes place under his nose, nor is he the blame for what Molly chose to do.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 30, 2019, 02:14:08 PM --- Really? Right under his nose?
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Pretty much, yep.
In the very city where Harry makes it clear to one and all (at least, one and all of the supernaturals) that this is HIS turf, and sorcerors & warlocks can expect to be confronted and killed.
With one of the families that Harry knows best, considers the father to be one of his closest friends, has seen the mother become involved because of his own investigations.
Harry made big claims about how the White Council "should" be finding these proto-warlocks before they go bad... and totally failed to notice the most-likely-for-him-to-notice young person becoming a warlock.
So yeah, that counts as "right under his nose."
Fortunately, he did get to her in time. We can tell because she went through her whole Rag Lady phase -- a serious crucible of fire -- without breaking, without going warlock.
But it took a tip-off from the Gatekeeper, and involvement from a serious Winterfae player (almost certainly Mab) for Harry to get there...
Kindler:
Harry's insistence that the WC should be finding these budding wizards/potential warlocks applies to an organization with access to way more resources than Harry will ever have.
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