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Elaine, Trojan Horse? "It was the knife..."
Mira:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on October 26, 2019, 12:55:55 AM ---Mostly that she thought he was aware Molly had the talent and was ignoring her to leave her room to dig herself into enough trouble to need saving, as a strategy to get her into his debt. Mab thinks Harry had a cunning selfish plan to mold a loyal retainer, when he was actually just ignorant that Molly was getting into magic until the last moment.
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Mab isn't all knowing, if she were, she wouldn't have 1] gotten Maeve under control before she got infected. 2] Would have known as soon as she was infected when she could have done something about it. She also would have figured out that even if it wasn't infected Lea having the Knife was a threat to her.. She sure would have known that the Knife was infected in the first place. Mab is very clever and plays three dimensional chess well, but she isn't an all knowing goddess.
morriswalters:
Don't confuse Mab handicaps at identifying nemfections with her ability to monitor Harry and those close to him. The Adversary is a creature of stealth who has been attacking the wall with the outsiders for a period long enough to accumulate "f**ktons" of bone at the outer gates.
Mab has consistently shown that she can follow events on the mortal plane if she wishes. And she has done so. She watched the Denarians kidnap Marcone, she appears to Harry no matter where he is, as when she finds him on the streets of Chicago in Small Favor to name him her emissary. She knew what was happening to Molly in Proven Guilty from Molly's first act of Black Magic. She got to Harry quick enough to assure that his death wouldn't be the final act in Harry's life. JB has even hinted at how it is done.
When Mab calls him out in Cold Days the event she points to, the one that started the ball rolling, is Harry's encounter with Molly in the tree house in Death Masks. She is fourteen and is about the time her magic rears its head. As a father it sends my creepy meter off the scale. I wonder if deep down, Harry's subconscious didn't sense what was coming. And then, suddenly, Harry finds the coin and isn't there when Molly will need a guide.
Mira:
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2019, 06:53:14 PM »
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Don't confuse Mab handicaps at identifying nemfections with her ability to monitor Harry and those close to him
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Maybe she can keep up with Harry, but she totally failed with her daughter, which led to many of the problems her she is having now, and I am not talking about infections.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on October 26, 2019, 03:33:36 AM ---The only thing Mab got wrong was his foreknowledge of her magic. And you have to wonder about the Id Harry and what he knew and when.
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Id Harry isn't all-knowing either - even if he intuited she had a talent, he had no way of knowing Molly would get involved with dark magic. Plus, he cares about survival, so a cunning plan to go out on an extreme risk of death to pull Molly out of immediate trouble and then a considerable ongoing risk of death to supervise her probation seems like a stretch for how he'd want to get an assistant.
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 29, 2019, 12:31:22 AM ---Maybe she can keep up with Harry, but she totally failed with her daughter, which led to many of the problems her she is having now, and I am not talking about infections.
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Daughters can be a handful, what can I say?
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on October 29, 2019, 12:39:48 AM ---Id Harry isn't all-knowing either - even if he intuited she had a talent, he had no way of knowing Molly would get involved with dark magic. Plus, he cares about survival, so a cunning plan to go out on an extreme risk of death to pull Molly out of immediate trouble and then a considerable ongoing risk of death to supervise her probation seems like a stretch for how he'd want to get an assistant.
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What else could have happened to her, given her talent? But as with most things there is what he meant to do and what he did do. And he did what Mab said, even if it wasn't his intention.
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