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Kindler:
The Middle Ages is usually dated from 476 AD --> 1492. From the Fall of Rome to Columbus. Most of the stuff we traditionally associate with the Middle Ages/Medieval Period is really the High Middle Ages, which gave us the Crusades that are actually fun to read about, and which ended pretty much at the Magna Carta in 1215.

Avernite:

--- Quote from: Kindler on October 30, 2019, 06:13:21 PM ---The Middle Ages is usually dated from 476 AD --> 1492. From the Fall of Rome to Columbus. Most of the stuff we traditionally associate with the Middle Ages/Medieval Period is really the High Middle Ages, which gave us the Crusades that are actually fun to read about, and which ended pretty much at the Magna Carta in 1215.

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Or at 4th Lateran, or the Mongol invasion, or... but yes :)

So a 1000 year old Bob from medieval France is very fitting. Even if France around the year 1000 wasn't much (with a certain Duke of Normandy going so far as to conquer his own Kingdom by himself, with the aid of some French vassals but not the 'King' of France).

Bad Alias:
There is also this: "Etienne the Enchanter: Bob's first owner. He binds Bob's spirit to a random human skull somewhere in late 14th to mid-15th century France. Bob has been passed down, wizard-to-wizard, ever since." It has a footnote to a dead link with a WoJ on the old forum here.

And this from the timeline: "LATE 14th CENTURY/MID-15th CENTURY, FRANCE: Bob’s spirit is bound to a random skull by a fellow called Etienne the Enchanter."

Kindler:

--- Quote from: Avernite on October 30, 2019, 06:57:49 PM ---Or at 4th Lateran, or the Mongol invasion, or... but yes :)

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Yep. Early thirteenth century was a couple of banner decades for a while.

Kindler:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on November 01, 2019, 04:51:07 AM ---There is also this: "Etienne the Enchanter: Bob's first owner. He binds Bob's spirit to a random human skull somewhere in late 14th to mid-15th century France. Bob has been passed down, wizard-to-wizard, ever since." It has a footnote to a dead link with a WoJ on the old forum here.

And this from the timeline: "LATE 14th CENTURY/MID-15th CENTURY, FRANCE: Bob’s spirit is bound to a random skull by a fellow called Etienne the Enchanter."

--- End quote ---

Well, if we're talking 1450ish, then that would fit almost exactly with Vlad Tepes's Second reign (the famous one with all of the giant toothpicks, 1456-1462). That's still technically the Middle Ages, but we're talking Late Middle Ages, and that's hardly any fun at all. Only Da Vinci and Ottomans, plus a bunch of plagues and other such nonsense. YAWN.

But... that's kinda interesting. It's possible that Drakul or Vlad were important to Bob uncovering how to kill immortals, which is what drove him to seek refuge with Etienne in the first place.

So, I'd say that Bob did exist as a discrete entity before he was bound to his Skull, for up to 300-400 years before his deal with Etienne.

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