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Mira:
--- Quote ---Uriel was pretty clear that is was wrong to bring Molly but that does not mean it was wrong to bring his other friends. Their problems started after Changes with Harry's suicide. Using Molly for that was probably even a greater problem than bringing her to Chichen Itza.
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I totally agree here, while bringing her to Chichen Itza was hard on her, it was totally her decision. Harry tried to talk her out of it, but she insisted.. Harry's suicide was another matter, while it too was her decision, she paid a huge price in the guilt she carried for aiding his death.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on October 14, 2019, 02:17:08 PM ---There are implied threats by both Marcone and Grey. Grey himself has a conversation about destroying the gang behind the pedophiles. Stating that he isn't a crusader and that even if he did, something else would take it's place.
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I find it interesting that Marcone represents a possible mortal threat to Grey, but he later dismisses annihilating another major syndicate because it would be tedious and ineffective, rather than existentially dangerous.
And Viti's assessment made it sound like she was concerned about him being an on-the-spot danger to Grey, not just that he could hire Monoc contractors capable of threatening him. Has Marcone got into regularly carrying enchanted weapons or something?
g33k:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on October 14, 2019, 04:05:16 PM --- ... And Viti's assessment made it sound like she was concerned about him being an on-the-spot danger to Grey, not just that he could hire Monoc contractors capable of threatening him. Has Marcone got into regularly carrying enchanted weapons or something?
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Jim has already noted that -- if they only knew what they were doing, and could do it without freakout (which is part of who Marcone is, after all) -- ordinary mortals could be a serious threat to any supernatural force in the world.
Grey is FAR from an exception to that; he can be taken out with mundane weapons. For someone with Marcone's resources, it wouldn't even be challenging.
If I had Marcone's resources, I'd probably do it in stages of overwhelming firepower.
1 - Put him down with an AA-12 (autofire shotgun) or similar. Yes, GG can get up from that in moments; so keep him down by pouring more autofire into him as he's down (probably another shooter or two, so not even any letup to reload); this will do more and more damage, keeping him down/disabled. A shotgun blast won't kill him, but if you got enough AA-12 shooters it probably would: they can do damage faster than he can regenerate, until they are literally dismembering him, and then destroying the pieces, with so much autofire.
But if that's not enough...
2 - Get another person to add incendiaries. Napalm, phosphorus grenades, incendiary shotgun loads, etc. Fire purifies, destroys magic... Ash doesn't regenerate or shapeshift. Get more people -- in hazmat firesuits -- to keep shooting and burning.
But hey, ridiculous overkill...
3 - While still violently aflame, run over him with a smooth steel road-roller, immediately re-lighting (if not still violently aflame) when the roller clears him.
OK, that was more Loony Tunes than Dresden Files (I bet Harry would approve of anything Loony Tunes in combat, though). Still, to return to the more James-Bond-Supervillain vibe that Marcone's got going on...
4 - Pour something caustic over the flaming body... VERY caustic. Fluoroantimonic acid looks good, since we've got the hazmat firesuits already...
Finally, remember that Gard's consulting for Marcone. She can tell him any vulnerabilities of a Naagloshii-scion. Maybe salt, or silver... but those are more Old World than American Southwest. Still, I'm sure there's something. Add it to the mix above, if inclined.
But honestly, that much concentrated destruction would do for most anything that still relies upon a body. Mavra, LoON, even Mab; maybe even Vadderung? I leave off entities like Uriel and Ferrovax, who seem to create whatever body they want whenever they want one.
Bad Alias:
The reason Harry isn't going after Marcone, or Lara for that matter, isn't that he thinks they aren't bad or they're better than the devil he doesn't know. He isn't going after him because he has worse monsters to deal with first, and probably always will, at least in the case of Marcone. Marcone is probably going to die of old age before Harry has the scratched off all the "worse" monsters on his list.
Dina:
I just wanted to comment that I agree with Arjan´s opinion in this.
About Marcone, I don't necessarily want him to be killed or completely out of power but sometimes is tiring to see him always as powerful and in control. I would like to see him out of his league or metaphorically in the dark about something for a while, preferably with Harry being in a better situation. Let me be clear, Marcone is a great character and I don't want to see him weakened for ever, just in some specific moment. He has the soul of a tiger and that is admirable, but he is still a bad guy and the hero of our story is Harry :P
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