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Big Finale Ending Trilogy
Bad Alias:
What's fridging? Or more pointedly, your definition of fridging? I ask because we could say that every character that Harry cares about who has died/been gruesomely injured has been fridged.
TV tropes defines it as "A character is killed off in a particularly gruesome manner and left to be found just to offend or insult someone, or to cause someone serious anguish." The intent can be that of the author, so it basically applies to everyone Harry cares about (including when he kills a bad guy and it causes him serious anguish). The definition supplied by wikipedia is "female characters are injured, raped, killed, or depowered (an event colloquially known as fridging), sometimes to stimulate "protective" traits, and often as a plot device intended to move a male character's story arc forward." That's a terrible definition if we want fridging to be a useful term because everything after "an event colloquially known as fridging" isn't a necessary part of the definition, so fridging would basically be anytime a physically bad thing happens to a female character.
If you limit the definition to a character killing the female romantic lead with the intent of causing Dresden pain, then I doubt that's how Murphy would go down.
If you narrow the definition to "anytime a female character who a male main character cares about dies" then I'm going to walk away from the conversation because I think, for this kind of story, we can't just remove female characters from harms way without destroying the value of having such characters, and that's just ridiculous.
Honestly, I think this trope is subverted more often in the DF than it is played straight. The typical situation is that a villain says "I'm going to fridge your x (and usually y and z as well)," and Harry responds by killing villain or villain and everyone villain knows.
Kindler:
I think his thought process was that, if Murphy's death serves no purpose other than to drive Harry to become a hermit (in reference to my pre-BAT WAG), then it'd be like Fridging her. That fits a reasonable definition of Fridging, but wasn't really what I meant.
Just Al:
--- Quote from: Kindler on October 21, 2019, 04:14:51 PM --- I think there are actually a few Shakers left, believe it or not, since celibacy is a requirement. Pretty sure there are a few dozen living in the last Shaker community up in Maine), etc.) kick off, and Harry returns from his period of mourning and hermitude to kick back.
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I remember reading that the last Shaker died sometime in the 90's being well over 100.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Kindler on October 24, 2019, 04:44:49 PM ---I think his thought process was that, if Murphy's death serves no purpose other than to drive Harry to become a hermit (in reference to my pre-BAT WAG), then it'd be like Fridging her. That fits a reasonable definition of Fridging, but wasn't really what I meant.
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I feel like most definitions of fridging don't have a lot of relevance for single point of view story. Doesn't everything in the story at least primarily serve the purpose of driving Dresden, if not solely?
@Just Al: I remember hearing that too, now that you mention it, but when I was looking for details on the Shaker apocalypse, the Wikipedia page made it look like they still have members.
Kindler:
I think there are a handful of true Shakers left, but they're not accepting new members. They have a Covenant you're supposed to sign, and they won't allow converts anymore.
There were several additions in the fifties and sixties though, from what I hear. And their Sunday services are open to the public.
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