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Who are the Good badguys? Who are the bad Goodguys?

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Kindler:

--- Quote from: spiritofair on September 27, 2019, 06:54:51 PM ---Ancient Mai seems almost a lock. At the end of Proven Guilty, when talking about the attack on the facility in New Mexica that the Red's initiated, there was a comment that only 4 (or something like that) people knew where it was. One of them was Ancient Mai. She was the most obvious of the 4. Seems almost a slam dunk that she is Black Council.

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That particular leak is explained by Peabody. It was why he was so effective in Turn Coat; he does all of the paperwork, so he knows what's happening, when it's happening, and where it'll happen. Nobody thought to look at him twice.

Like the way secretaries were treated in the past. The White Council is behind the times in more ways than one.

spiritofair:

--- Quote from: Kindler on September 30, 2019, 06:12:09 PM ---That particular leak is explained by Peabody. It was why he was so effective in Turn Coat; he does all of the paperwork, so he knows what's happening, when it's happening, and where it'll happen. Nobody thought to look at him twice.

Like the way secretaries were treated in the past. The White Council is behind the times in more ways than one.

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I get what you're saying and thought about that, but the quote was literally, "only 4 people know". Seems to leave it a little grey that Peabody would know. They way it was said, it made it sound like maybe there wouldn't even be any records (but that is speculation).

g33k:

--- Quote from: spiritofair on September 30, 2019, 06:25:14 PM ---I get what you're saying and thought about that, but the quote was literally, "only 4 people know". Seems to leave it a little grey that Peabody would know. They way it was said, it made it sound like maybe there wouldn't even be any records (but that is speculation).
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Well, but it's all speculation, izzinit?  Until revealed in a story, or WOJ'ed (and even then:  Harry's an unreliable narrator, and JB is a known liar (on occasion) who intentionally misleads fans...).

KurtinStGeorge:
No way Nicodemus has a change of heart.  He isn't following a (very dark) path, he is the path.  He said something to that effect at the end of Skin Game.  I get why some people would name Kumori as an individual who could change for the better; and while that may be possible, IMO she's too minor a character to make much of a difference to the overall story whether she changes or not. 

My guess is either Cowl or Marcone will turn out not to be the enemy Harry sees them as.  Either Cowl believes he is doing the right thing and is deeply misguided and will eventually do a heel-face - turn or Marcone and Harry will discover that they need each other.  In Marcone's case, he will become something better and greater than he imagined he could be.  My money is on Marcone.  I think Harry will discover the better side of Marcone in Mirror Mirror.  Getting the Alpha-verse Marcone to see it will be quite a challenge for Harry and won't happen until a later book.

As far as bad good guys go, maybe it isn't someone who is deliberately working against Harry.  Someone he knows could be nemfected.  In fact, that's my bet.  It was alluded to in Cold Days.  Harry kept wondering which of his friends was the most vulnerable to Nemesis.  For someone who is a private detective, the way Harry thinks things through is awfully backward at times.  What he should have been asking himself is who Nemesis would have found most valuable to nemfect, beyond simply being close to Harry.

I'll have more to say on this topic in a seperate post.  It deserves its own thread. 

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