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The Next Knight
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 02, 2019, 02:36:45 PM ---Not if he rejects noose and coin and accepts the chance of redemption and embraces the meaning of the Grail. If the Grail can give eternal life or at least preserve him, it could be a game changer for Nic. Because we know give up the coin etc and you go back to your real age and begin to age normally.. Since Nic is a couple of thousand years old, give or take he'd just turn to dust...
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Hmm. One of us is missing something, here.
Like, I think you just began by saying "Not if..." and then replicated my points.
So were you disagreeing with me, or agreeing? ???
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 02, 2019, 02:36:45 PM ---Since Nic is a couple of thousand years old, give or take he'd just turn to dust.
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He could have a few years in him. Quintus Cassius made it to Dead Beat and didn't die of natural causes. He was probably a Roman.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on October 02, 2019, 08:32:29 PM ---He could have a few years in him. Quintus Cassius made it to Dead Beat and didn't die of natural causes. He was probably a Roman.
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I don't think he was as old as Nic. He didn't die of natural causes because Mouse broke his neck, but clearly he was aging at a very rapid pace, that is one reason why he was so desperate to take up another coin.
I was agreeing with you g33K..
dspringer1:
I know Marcone and Thomas are popular candidates, but I just do not see either as possible.
Thomas is a full vampire. He feeds on souls - no choice about it. A Knight would not be allowed to feed on souls. If Thomas managed to kill his demon/vampire part, then a Knight could be possible.
Marcone is a strong individual with a strongly defined "bright lines" in his morality. But he is NOT a moral individual. He can certainly be a heroic figure in the dresden universe if the circumstances are right. He can (as stated) make an outstanding King or ruler or even Ally. He has a tiger's soul - and it would take something very dramatic to change that. And really seeing nothing, not even the recovery of the girl in the coma, changing that.
Fundamentally, for me at least, the morality of the Knights is the essential requirement. It is this combination of self-sacrifice and desire to do good that makes a Knight. Thomas does not have that for anyone beyond his immediate family. Marcone does not have that period. A person can go through a transformation moment (like Sanya) that results in them rising to that Standard, but it must be profound to have that effect. But I have not seen anything in the series to date that implies such a transformation for either Marcone or Thomas.
Mira:
--- Quote ---Fundamentally, for me at least, the morality of the Knights is the essential requirement. It is this combination of self-sacrifice and desire to do good that makes a Knight. Thomas does not have that for anyone beyond his immediate family. Marcone does not have that period. A person can go through a transformation moment (like Sanya) that results in them rising to that Standard, but it must be profound to have that effect. But I have not seen anything in the series to date that implies such a transformation for either Marcone or Thomas.
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That is why my vote goes to Nic, just think of the drama of it, if he had such a conversion.. That doesn't mean that there won't be temporary Knights between now and the final BAT. Harry won't hesitate to hand out the Sword if it is needed to someone suitable, but as we've seen that doesn't make him or her a Knight for the duration..
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