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Yuillegan:
Why isn't he dead?

If everything that stands upon the Earth on Halloween is mortal, from the Ladies to the Archangels, why isn't he dead? Harry blew his head off! Yet the dark cloud rushing away yowling implies that he survived?

So are Outsiders more than immortal? Was Bob wrong about conjunctions and Halloween? Are there exceptions?

Braincandy:
rough guess, in order to kill something you have to hit with something capable of killing it and not just dispersing it's form. It's very possible that blowing his head off with a Winchester, even with a bit of energy behind it, isn't enough to inflict a fatal wound on something with outsider physiology.

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: Yuillegan on September 22, 2019, 11:18:22 PM ---So are Outsiders more than immortal? Was Bob wrong about conjunctions and Halloween? Are there exceptions?

--- End quote ---

I'd guess the conjunction is a rule of Inside that just doesn't apply to outsiders. Especially if they're only projecting their consciousness into a possessed host or an ectoplasm construct, rather than fully entering reality.

I'm not convinced Bob was on the money about Archangels being included there either - he's previously said faith stuff isn't really his area. Based on WOJ that archangels are immune to Nemesis because their nature is immutable, they're probably also above the need to be active on earth on Halloween stealing little nibbles of each other's power to stay recharged. I'd trust info-dumps from Bob when it comes to mantled beings, but he's not really privy to how beings whose power is granted by the Almight actually work.

Yuillegan:
True Bob has been wrong before - so I agree he might not be 100% right about conjunctions. And yeah my take is because they are Beyond, they don't have the same rules apply. Which makes the banefire make more sense (it couldn't kill any outsiders that may have been below Demonreach, but it could keep them down a while).

I think Mortal wounds are what they appear to be generally in the series - but it isn't gospel.

Kindler:
I don't think He Who Walks Before was really here, physically. The closest analogue is the Demon who got rocked by Dresden during the Naked Thunderstorm Fight in Storm Front. Its real self was elsewhere. I don't think HWWB is really capable of coming Inside while the Gates stand, even if summoned by mortal magic.

Come to think of it... who summoned HWWB? It takes a mortal to do it. Who was that mortal in Cold Days?

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