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WAG: Mirror! Mirror!
morriswalters:
If you consider that the last choice he makes in Grave Peril is to not leave Susan to the Vampires, then you have the basis of a redemption story. Not only guilt for not keeping Susan from being bitten, but giving her up to the Reds as well.
No war with the Reds. Mab chooses not to use Harry as her emissary in Summer Knight. Aurora has her war. Lea kills a weakened Mab and becomes Winter Queen. Cowl does the Dark Hallow and the world burns, ect, ect, ect.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on November 17, 2019, 09:09:38 PM ---Bony Tony would probably still be trying to sell the Word of Kemmler, so !Harry would likely be involved with the Heirs of Kemmler, even if it was just because he was after power. That would probably still lead to !Harry meeting Necro-Bob. !Harry four years after starting down the wrong path might keep Necro-Bob around.
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!Harry could meet Evil Bob almost immediately after the wrong choice that diverges his timeline. Unless the divergent choice comes after already beating the Nightmare, he's going to need an alternative way to destroy a big angry ghost and steal back his power.
If he just asks Bob for whatever he has on dealing with that sort of problem, it leads straight to the "I don't want to remember that" / "Do it anyway" conversation that ended up letting Evil Bob out of his partition in DB in the main timeline. It would just happen years early, and with Harry desperate enough to accept the Kemmlerite easy button that Evil Bob could offer him.
123Chikadee:
Hm, yeah Bony Tony probably would still do what he does.
I like the idea of a necromancer Harry, with any version of Bob by his side. I also didn't think of Lara not surviving, but now that its been brought up, yeah, her living doesn't seem to make much sense.
Though, I do think that Thomas and Harry might be more enemies but yeah Harry influencing Thomas in a negative way is still true.
I'm wondering how Harry and Bob's relationship would change, since Bob really doesn't like that evil part of himself.
I think for Summer Knight, that Elaine will be the one to really carry the day. For whatever reason, Lea and Mab might have a tougher time trying to get a hold of Harry.
g33k:
From WoJ, I think (quoted above):
--- Quote ---In this case it will be the big decision at the end of Grave Peril.
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I think this decision is where Harry lets Susan leave to find her own path.
I bet he could have persuaded her to stay; he decided not to even try.
So, no connection (or much-delayed) with the Fellowship; Susan's self-control may be shakier for the lack.
Probably no Maggie; maybe another/different child... Young Ebenezer? Or even children?
Dresden + Half-Vamp-Susan is a damned potent combo; if she stayed, maybe they turned into a major working team. This cuts Murphy's involvement as Harry-backup WAY down.
Harry+Susan also reverses the Harry+Karrin field dynamic: Half-Vamp takes point, wizard in the back (vs. Harry on point with shield, gun-Murph to the rear) ... subtly turning Harry into a guy who hides behind someone he cares for.
Or (#2 choice) -- he lets Bianca back him down from the big throwdown at the end.
Maybe he bargains to extract Susan, but becomes beholden to Bianca.
Maybe he concludes that a half-Vamp cannot be turned back, and therefore Susan is lost anyway.
Maybe he accepts the deal, planning to come back and steal Susan (but it's too late).
#3... #4 ... ? Any other "big decision(s) at the end of Grave Peril?"
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on November 18, 2019, 02:07:14 AM ---!Harry could meet Evil Bob almost immediately after the wrong choice that diverges his timeline. Unless the divergent choice comes after already beating the Nightmare, he's going to need an alternative way to destroy a big angry ghost and steal back his power.
If he just asks Bob for whatever he has on dealing with that sort of problem, it leads straight to the "I don't want to remember that" / "Do it anyway" conversation that ended up letting Evil Bob out of his partition in DB in the main timeline. It would just happen years early, and with Harry desperate enough to accept the Kemmlerite easy button that Evil Bob could offer him.
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Good point.
--- Quote from: 123Chikadee on November 18, 2019, 09:43:00 PM ---I also didn't think of Lara not surviving, but now that its been brought up, yeah, her living doesn't seem to make much sense.
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Either Thomas and Harry are allies and Thomas survives, or Thomas dies and Lara doesn't take over the White Court. She could at some later point when it becomes clear that Papa Raith isn't all there, but in that situation, House Raith is going to be a lot less likely to come through the transition unscathed. My point isn't that Lara would die; it's that she would not be in charge of the White Court and play out her scheme in White Night because the timing would be off, and she wouldn't be trying to manipulate good guy Harry who she got to know in Blood Rite or she Harry would have murdered her.
--- Quote from: g33k on November 18, 2019, 11:11:44 PM ---I think this decision is where Harry lets Susan leave to find her own path.
I bet he could have persuaded her to stay; he decided not to even try.
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I doubt that Susan staying and surviving is going to make Harry evil. Now if Susan stayed and Harry had to kill her ...
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