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How a being becomes vulnerable to Nemesis - hint from WOJ

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Mira:


    Based on that Molly is really vulnerable since she was very mortal, and comes from a very mortal family with a different set of moral values than Mab has...

KurtinStGeorge:

--- Quote from: forumghost on September 10, 2019, 12:23:38 PM ---All that aside, could association with mortals be what leaves people vulnerable? Maybe, But I personally don't think so. Lea still required exposure to the Athame, and Sith had not be hanging around mortals all that much beyond ripping their spines out (remember, CD was only a couple days tops). If your immune system goes down in a matter of hours... you don't have much of an immune syste.

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I get the whole Jim is a lying, liar thing.  You could be right.  However, I take slight issue with what you said here.  Sure, Lea became nemfected through her exposure to the Athame, but perhaps it was her association with Harry, his mother and possibly Justin DuMorne as well, which impaired her spiritual immune system and this is what allowed the Athame to do its work.

Unfortunately, my clever explanation doesn't really explain Maeve being vulnerable.  Mostly Maeve liked to torture mortals.  She didn't really have any extended relationships with them.  So yea, maybe Jim was just doing some misdirection for his own amusement or to keep us from figuring out what's really going on within the story.

Avernite:
I think it may be more 'wanting to break your role'. Molly, as per SG, thinks the Lady role is good and necessary but (as per cold case) can use improvements. Aurora and Maeve seemingly had switched to thinking the role was horrid and they should break the system.

Whether or not such thoughts only come in through a mortal route is a good question.

And I think part of the reason Cat Sith got broken while being taken over is because he didn't WANT anything else than being a horribly vicious murderous malk. So he could be taken, but not turned into a Nemesis agent.

exartiem:
I think Nemesis offers the being a taste of free will.  Then, how much you are infected depends on how much that free will means to you.

For Sith, honor to his queen meant more to him than his bloodthirsty nature so he resisted.

Aurora and Meave had desires that the free will allowed them to pursue, thus they were completely taken.  Lea was jealous of Mab and wanted her power, thus she was taken, but Mab was able to get her to give up and re-embrace her loyalty to Mab.

Humans already have free will thus Nemesis has nothing to tempt them with.

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