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"At last the masquerade ends! Kill them! Kill them /all/!"
Kindler:
I tend to think that Ghoulmageddon 2: The Ghoulening—This Time it's More Violent was a fallback plan if Vittorio failed to unseat Raith. I think the Black Council/Cowl/Nemesis/The Outsiders wanted to bring the White Court under its control, not kill it. Kinda mirrors Lady Ortega's plan to improve her status in the Red Court in Changes, which Harry also foiled, but with extreme-r prejudice.
It makes sense, if you think about it. Papa Raith's magic resistance has long been speculated to originate from a pact with or sponsorship from Outsiders, right? Lara...subjugated him, so Outsiders don't have de facto control over the White Court any longer. They wanted their toys back, or, if they couldn't have them, they wanted to break them so nobody else could, either.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Kindler on September 09, 2019, 02:42:44 PM ---... Papa Raith's magic resistance has long been speculated to originate from a pact with or sponsorship from Outsiders, right? Lara...subjugated him, so Outsiders don't have de facto control over the White Court any longer. They wanted their toys back, or, if they couldn't have them, they wanted to break them so nobody else could, either.
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Now this is a very interesting thought!
I want to mull the implications a while.
It's interesting also that Harry reveals the "cull the herd" plan to have been Lara's all along -- though apparently versions of it are known for centuries -- but the Outsiders don't enact ANY plan to move against the WC until Lara takes Papa Raith away from the Outsiders (if that's what actually happened, of course).
Thank you for this idea!
peregrine:
Depends on what you mean by the plan being "hers."
It's entirely possible that while she gave the idea to the other two, she didn't specifically want to implement it. Just that she gave the other guys a bad idea to play them.
forumghost:
--- Quote from: peregrine on September 10, 2019, 05:06:58 AM ---Depends on what you mean by the plan being "hers."
It's entirely possible that while she gave the idea to the other two, she didn't specifically want to implement it. Just that she gave the other guys a bad idea to play them.
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That was certainly my interpretation.
"These idiots are a threat to me. I'll give them a dumb-guy-dumb-plan, buy some popcorn, and watch as Dresden Dresden's them" was probably her real plan.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Arjan on September 07, 2019, 05:48:07 AM ---Because that was his backup plan. Vito was possessed by an outsider, Lash explicitly said so. With hindsight it might be a nemesis infection. Placing his family on top and Vito in a good place to take over was probably Cowl preferred outcome but that failed so killing everyone was his second best option.
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JB made a tongue-in-cheek retcon WoJ confirmation of the Sharkface/Before-was-possessing-Vitto theory. But I don't think he was being remotely serious. He just thought it was an interesting idea.
I'm not sure I'd say he was possessed by Nemesis, but I'd agree that he could have been tainted by Nemesis. In that sense, the "masquerade" could be the entire cat's-paw culture of the Whamps. Vitto became so corrupted that he resented the thing he was bound to, just like Aurora bucked balance, and Denton bucked justice, etc, etc.
And the "masquerade" he was ending was the entire Court.
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