The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Souls and Ghosts.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---I am not so sure about that. I would say Uriel's interest is a strong indication that Sir Stuart had a soul. He stayed to protect his family (morty). Magical talent is often inherited. He had a stronger presence than most ghosts. It is quite possible that he had the same talents as morty and a strong will to stay behind. That would be enough in my opinion.
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Does anyone have a copy of Ghost Story handy? Because I remember Uriel saying something that definitively states that Sir Stuart's ghost is not Sir Stuart's soul when he hires Sir Stuart's ghost, but I don't have my book to check.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on January 12, 2020, 02:37:28 PM --- Ghosts cannot really prey upon anyone nor protect for that matter, when Molly was in trouble
all Harry could do was plea with Uriel to help her, he, himself was powerless no matter what he'd chose to do. As Uriel said, in the end souls will be judged on what they did in life. They might chose to wait for that judgement like Captain Murphy, that is pretty much the extent of his choices.
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Ghosts and ghostlike beings prey on each other as Harry discovered when he was ambushed and robbed of his memories. Corpstaker showed how a bodyless shade could still inflict a lot of damage in the material world with the right knowledge and dedication. Lea explained how she did it as well.
Bob explained that what he did in his ghost state affected what he was and that his soul was actually in danger but he also had a chance to return.
I think everything you do before you jump on hat train still counts.
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on January 12, 2020, 03:15:20 PM ---Does anyone have a copy of Ghost Story handy? Because I remember Uriel saying something that definitively states that Sir Stuart's ghost is not Sir Stuart's soul when he hires Sir Stuart's ghost, but I don't have my book to check.
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He calls him a shade and a spirit, which I suppose is explicit.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on January 12, 2020, 06:40:41 PM ---He calls him a shade and a spirit, which I suppose is explicit.
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The fomor servitor calls corpstaker a shade. I take shade to mean soul + spirit but I do not think the terms all always used correctly and consistent. What is shown in the story is more important.
nadia.skylark:
I found the quote. It's not as definitive as I thought it was, but here it is:
--- Quote ---I went back over to Uriel to find him conversing with Sir Stuart.
"Don't know," Sir Stuart was saying. "I'm not . . . not as right as I used to be, sir."
"There's more than enough left to rebuild on," Uriel said. "Trust me. The ruins of a spirit like Sir Stuart's are more substantial than most men ever manage to dredge up. I'd be very pleased to have you working for me."
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So Uriel definitely refers to Sir Stuart in the third person when hiring Sir Stuart's ghost.
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