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Candidates for future Nemfection?
g33k:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on September 02, 2019, 12:49:43 AM --- ...
@g33k
If you must drag Ebeneezer into this discussion use Newtonian Mechanics rather than physics ...
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Point!
--- Quote from: morriswalters on September 02, 2019, 12:49:43 AM --- ... Putting that aside though, I tend to think that Molly carried the gene and that her siblings didn't or that her siblings do and that if exposed to magic for any long span of time that they would come into magic themselves.
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I'm pretty sure we have WoJ that it was specifically due to Charity's magical behavior. She was relatively-recently-active with Molly, but years-inactive with the others.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: g33k on September 01, 2019, 08:43:13 PM ---I believe that most modern biologists agree that "species" is an out-dated idea; still useful in some ways, the way Newtonian Physics is useful when launching satellites/spacecraft, even though it is known to be wrong (Einsteinian Physics is much closer to correct; but for most purposes the difference is negligible).
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My education on the subject is a good while back, and one's education is usually a decade or two out of date at the time it is received, so my education on the issue is probably cutting edge for the 80's or so. I have read recently that the field of evolution has been at a stand still for a "generation," a vague term that, based on the scientists mentioned, is likely to be at least two generations, so maybe my education was cutting edge since there wasn't a cutting edge at the time.
It was always very evident to me that the theory of evolution I was being taught wasn't fully baked as speciation was kind of an important part of the theory, and the definition of species resulted in humans being, necessarily, supernatural beings. But the scientific community was preaching evolution as inarguable fact. All that sort of thing does is damage credibility.
--- Quote from: morriswalters on September 02, 2019, 12:49:43 AM ---I tend to think that Molly carried the gene and that her siblings didn't or that her siblings do and that if exposed to magic for any long span of time that they would come into magic themselves.
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Plenty of genes are "activated" by things that happen in utero. Based on WoJ, I think there is a strong possibility that magical talent may be one of them.
--- Quote from: kbrizzle on September 01, 2019, 07:37:53 PM ---As mentioned before, I believe there is an obscure WoJ that most wizards are descendants of Changelings.
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I remember plenty of discussion about that idea here, but I don't recall the WoJ. If anyone can find it, that would be appreciated.
Avernite:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on September 03, 2019, 05:56:02 PM ---My education on the subject is a good while back, and one's education is usually a decade or two out of date at the time it is received, so my education on the issue is probably cutting edge for the 80's or so. I have read recently that the field of evolution has been at a stand still for a "generation," a vague term that, based on the scientists mentioned, is likely to be at least two generations, so maybe my education was cutting edge since there wasn't a cutting edge at the time.
It was always very evident to me that the theory of evolution I was being taught wasn't fully baked as speciation was kind of an important part of the theory, and the definition of species resulted in humans being, necessarily, supernatural beings. But the scientific community was preaching evolution as inarguable fact. All that sort of thing does is damage credibility.
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Sounds like you had bad teaching going on. Sorry for your lost hours during childhood.
--- Quote ---Plenty of genes are "activated" by things that happen in utero. Based on WoJ, I think there is a strong possibility that magical talent may be one of them.
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Absolutely, this seems a given based on the Carpenter example WoJed. But I think we may also be overdoing it, because the books don't have to follow evolutionary theory TOO closely, they're fiction (with magic!) after all. Maybe the right genes aren't activated, maybe the soul is simply exposed to the Nevernever more directly thus allowing latent wizardry to bloom.
g33k:
I add emphasis:
--- Quote from: kbrizzle on September 01, 2019, 07:37:53 PM --- ... I believe there is an obscure WoJ that most wizards are descendants of Changelings ...
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I suspect a great many NN beings can, potentially, be the cause of wizardry in their mortal descendepnts. Scions of old gods, etc etc etc.
I suspect that YHWH wants there to be wizards in the world, and His agents can probably effect that... even where no occult/NN bloodline is involved. Just as Uriel "nudged" Harry's casting vs. Thorned Namshiel in the Shedd to enable Harry's use of Soulfire, I suspect Dresdenverse angels can "nudge" a mortal who is intensely wishing/praying for something beneficial, enabling them to directly enact their wish.
I suspect there are other ways for wizardry to begin, too. Maybe "most" are descendents of Changelings... but if "most" is the word used in the (presumed) WoJ... that clearly means that not all wizards are descended from Changelings!
g33k:
--- Quote from: kbrizzle on September 01, 2019, 07:37:53 PM --- ... I believe there is an obscure WoJ that most wizards are descendants of Changelings ...
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There is also, IIRC, the thing where Changelings can merge fully back into Faerie, or become fully human.
And the thing where Mab herself may once have been... mortal.
Not only are wizards biologically "human" ... so are the fae!
(biologically speaking. Magic obviously gets a say, too)
<wanders off, whistling innocently>
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