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Candidates for future Nemfection?
morriswalters:
Harry was manipulated. Or so I believe. Marva wanted to strike at Michael. Bianca wanted Harry or war with the White Council. And Cowl wanted to strike at Winter, or more precisely at Mab. So my guess is that the deal was done in advance. However it is only a guess.
It is worth noting that Ferrovax got a gift. If you go into full tin hat mode then it is possible that his gift was tainted as well.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 30, 2019, 01:04:05 PM ---Harry was manipulated. Or so I believe. Marva wanted to strike at Michael. Bianca wanted Harry or war with the White Council. And Cowl wanted to strike at Winter, or more precisely at Mab. So my guess is that the deal was done in advance. However it is only a guess.
It is worth noting that Ferrovax got a gift. If you go into full tin hat mode then it is possible that his gift was tainted as well.
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A couple of things, and I wrote a post about this a while back, I think Lea may have possibly been infected before she got the knife. She just seemed a bit too power hungry and not as loyal to her queen as she should be. The events surrounding her helping young Harry for example, she manipulates him into striking a bargain with her for help to take on Justin. However he'd already taken on an Outsider successfully, and as Jim has pointed out at least once, she didn't give him anything in return for his promises other than some confidence.. Her offers to keep him safe by turning him into one of her hounds for example is hardly helpful, which leads him to grab and misuse a Holy Sword enabling her to take it to trade at the party... She had to know what Bianca wanted to do with it, or those behind Bianca, that the Sword would be unmade and the side her Court is essentially on no matter how loosely the affiliation would be weakened.
kbrizzle:
@morriswalters
Hmm despite Lea saying so about Harry’s debt we know that Mab possesses the athame by Changes, so we know that she took it from Lea. Whether she took it because she figured it is Nfected & this wanted it away from Lea, or simply because its an object of immense magical power is debatable.
@Mira
I agree, the symmetrical set up of the gift giving at Bianca’s ball had me confused as well. Here is how I see the BC thinking about it:
* They give the Nfected athame to Lea, who in turn gives it to Mab
* They gift Lea a magical artifact of great value knowing that she will owe them a huge, commensurate favor in return in order to ‘balance the scales’. Perhaps the favor they were planning to call in was inside knowledge of the defenses @ Arctis Tor.
So in a way, they didn’t care if Lea had something to gift them in return to balance the scales since they were covered either way. I believe that Mavra was always planning on killing the girl as a way to force Harry & Michael to break their guest privileges - that she had Amoracchius was the cherry on top.
It is also possible that the Ramps reached out to Lea & set up the trade, although it would be awfully last minute. Lea was only able to get Amoracchius through a lucky series of events a day or 2 before the ball. So I doubt there was a longer term plan for Lea to steal Amoracchius- it reads to me as being opportunistic.
morriswalters:
Mab has the athame by Dead Beat.
Gift giving among the fae is symmetrical and part of canon. If you give them a gift they must reciprocate. At least that is my understanding.
g33k:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 29, 2019, 08:44:29 PM --- Wizards are only quasi humans, given that, in the Dresdenverse humans can't do magic and won't live to be 400 years old, nor have the capacity to rebuild a burnt hand ...
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Nah, wizards are human.
Wizards just occupy a space within the "human range" not previously documented by science.
Humans and wizards look the same, intermingle socially, and interbreed freely. Non-wizards can have wizard kids, and wizards can have non-wiz kids.
It doesn't entirely follow "normal" genetics. Molly had the gift in part because Charity had lately been a practitioner; most/all the other kids have no gift, because Charity hasn't been using her gift at all. Lysenko lives!
The unlimited healing and long lifespan don't seem to be a feature of being (or not-being) a wizard, but of doing magic; otherwise the folks like Charity would stick out like sore thumbs! Any human doing magic will get those side effects, probably proportional to how often they work magic, and how powerful their workings. So the innumerable minor talents will tend to heal slightly faster/better, and live longer, but it shows as "unusual, but not shocking."
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