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Regenbogen:

--- Quote from: Mira on August 18, 2019, 10:19:36 AM ---I think one would be possible,  tsunamis  are caused by earth quakes under water.  They can also happen in lakes if there is a big enough rock or land slide into one side of it, saw a clip of that on either the Science Channel or the History Channel,  rock slide into a large lake caused a fifty foot wave.



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How big must the mass be, do you know? I was thinking more of an volcano underground. In the immediate area of the explosion the waves should be not that big - in case of a landmass at least as big as the mass plus acceleration (I hope I use the right words) - but they are building momentum the further away from the blast they get and the higher the ground of the see gets.

kbrizzle:

--- Quote from: Regenbogen on August 18, 2019, 09:21:56 AM ---Just some thoughts:
... in a lake??? ? I can't imagine a tsunami would be geographically possible there. Not even if it came from the ocean. The wave hits near the beach and rolls inland after that. Aren't there mountains in between? The lake itself is big but not big enough that a wave could become that high. Except maybe if someone used a lot of water magic....
OK, let's say there is a huge wave. I would think the island can protect itself. Also the important parts seem to be high up or deep down below the surface.

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Well given that we are dealing with a series about magic, I’d imagine there are myriad ways a powerful being could use this to their advantage.

But if I were an evil, unimaginably powerful being & I wanted to attack Demonreach, I would take a page out of @Mira’s book & use a combination of earthquake & tsunami as my opening salvo. Perhaps something like this will set off the BAT?


--- Quote ---She is weak because it was summer or not yet winter  at that time, wasn't it?
I think the old age symptoms come from the mothers' mantles. Somehow this seems to be the prize for that much power. A balance thing. Everything in Fairie seems to be about balance.
Or maybe Mother Summer is keeping her this way as long as the table is in Summer's hands and she has more power. To keep Winter in check. So that she would not overpower all the mighty ones in the world and take over.
Just like why there are counterparts to the Winter Queen and Lady.
Maybe that's why they live together.

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CD occurs around Halloween which is when Winter is more powerful. In CD Mother Summer explicitly says  “she rarely leaves our cottage anymore, she lost her walking stick you see....it’s painful for her to travel, even briefly”.

The question is, why? As Bob says, the Queens are true immortals.


--- Quote ---Idea about Sanya:

Maybe to show, that to be a Knight of the Cross you don't have to be the perfect hero type like Michael. You can be clumsy. And you can even be agnostic  ;D

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Possible, although then I expect Butters to be even clumsier over the next few books. It seems weird though that JB goes out of his way to talk about Harry’s leg being cut in SmF only to go nowhere with it.


--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 18, 2019, 09:43:10 AM ---As good as Changes is as a narrative, in it, Harry can best be described as a d**k.  He's selfish, childish, and generally speaking, unhinged.  Ghost Story seems to want to explain that behavior.  The answer it appears,  is the devil made me do it.  That's the Cliff's Notes version.

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True but again, this could be covered more easily in a short story than a full case file. I mean having ghost Corpsetaker & Evil Bob as the bad guys... especially after Changes seemed like a let down.
I get that JB wanted to introduce us to new-ish concepts like ghosts/ lemours/ shades etc., but I wonder why he recycled a couple of side- bad guys from the previous books & made them the big bad of this novel. I mean what happened to Grevane’s ghost?

This could have been an interesting book to revisit the ‘ghosts’ of Harry’s past & all the people who’ve died in Chicago - like Sells, Kim Delaney, Shiro etc. By the amount of time that was spent developing Fitz as a character, I’m sure we’ll see more of him in the later books although I found him to be uninteresting.

I dunno, it was kind of a lackluster book, but that’s probably because the books leading up to & after it (TC, Changes, CD, SG) are some of the best in the series.

morriswalters:
I don't think the area is near a plate boundary so no volcanoes .  The area is rather well scrubbed by glaciers so not a lot of high ground on the lake to provide debris for a landslide.  Near Toledo(and I assume near lake Michigan the ground is flat.  Being from Kentucky I found that disturbing.  And a quick glimpse on Google Earth  makes me believe that Demonreach island is an outlier in having a rocky hill like character.  However it evidently has a Formor redoubt, so who knows?

Mira:

--- Quote from: Regenbogen on August 18, 2019, 10:55:28 AM ---How big must the mass be, do you know? I was thinking more of an volcano underground. In the immediate area of the explosion the waves should be not that big - in case of a landmass at least as big as the mass plus acceleration (I hope I use the right words) - but they are building momentum the further away from the blast they get and the higher the ground of the see gets.

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  I think it depends on the topography under the lake, then how big the quake which displaces the the water.  In the film I saw it was a huge chunk of cliff that fell in, the sheer mass of it caused a big wave that took out everything on the other side of the lake.   Remember water is heavy and it doesn't have to be very deep or fast to do a lot of damage.

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: kbrizzle on August 18, 2019, 06:12:15 AM ---Since water is anathema to magic, what happens if Demonreach is hit by a tsunami? It is an island after all....[/li][/list]

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I suppose a meteor strike or an underwater nuclear detonation in Lake Michigan are potential mechanisms. Within the story, I can think of a couple powers off the top of my head that could arrange one or both.

Merlin seems to have planned for the island to be subject to thousands of years of normal rainfall without the prison losing integrity, though. Possibly the surface defenses are set up to draw power off the dark ley line created from the prisoners' "body heat", or something about how the enchantment was created across time.

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