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Small Favor Reread: Who Has Thorned Namshiel?

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g33k:
I can envision a "safety" system the Denarians use, wherein a Fallen who has a satisfactory Host nevertheless has the host surrender the coin, briefly, and plants a Shadow in someone else.

The Shadow is there to be helpful and useful, and NOT summon the Denarius... except in the event the Host dies/repents, and the Coin falls into Church hands (or otherwise becomes lost), whereupon the en-Shadowed "Safety" summons the coin back into circulation.

Then the Denarian goes to another mortal, and does it again, for another "Safety."

Then again, and again...

There's no way the Church (or anyone else) can ever really be sure they have eliminated all the "Safeties" for any of the Fallen; they are "sleepers," not active agents of the Fallen.

Safeties against their plans going awry.
 

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Regenbogen on July 31, 2019, 10:34:35 PM ---I don't think it is that simple. Harry could only summon the coin, because Lasciel's shadow was inside him. I can't imagine, that one human could be inhabited by several Fallen or their shadows. So Nicodemus or any other Denarian can't have something of for example Lasciel in him to be able to summon her coin, because he is already "occupied".

--- End quote ---

The shadow wasn't inside Harry when the Church had the coin. It's possible that anyone could summon any coin at anytime, but what would the point of collecting and hiding them be?

narphoenix:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on July 31, 2019, 08:19:52 PM ---I don't think anything the Church does protects the coin from being summoned.

--- End quote ---

We actually know this statement to be false. WoJ is that Cassius tried resummoning Saluriel’s coin, but the church successfully contained the Coin against it.

segaily:
It is possible the island would also prevent a coin from being summoned.  It may only be the jail yard not a max security cell but it might still prevent things from being summoned off it. 

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: narphoenix on August 02, 2019, 06:59:09 PM ---We actually know this statement to be false. WoJ is that Cassius tried resummoning Saluriel’s coin, but the church successfully contained the Coin against it.

--- End quote ---

Jim said Harry could summon it. So either the coin wasn't protected, or Harry couldn't have actually summoned it. Right?

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