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Quick question about pre-Storm Front
kbrizzle:
@KurtinStGeorge & SerScot
At the end of PG when Harry is talking to Eb, I think it is revealed that the only reason the Council didn’t kill Harry was because Eb personally vouched for him, similar to how Harry did for Molly. This is why Harry, like Molly was placed under the Doom, although I’m unsure if Eb was also placed under it, like Harry is for vouching for Molly.
Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on July 07, 2019, 09:45:08 PM ---Luccio / the wardens did know about Bob; they regarded him as a VERY dangerous artifact. Luccio states that "the wardens" destroyed Bob, and Harry didn't correct her.
IIRC, Justin was a warden at the time. I presume he was the one who did the "destroying."
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They knew that Kemmler had him, and she thought they destroyed him when they killed Kemmler.. Justin was still a warden at that time and was in on the raid, that is when he stole Bob the assumption was that he was destroyed.
--- Quote ---So, either Justin was already suspected or someone saw some incredibly damning evidence when they caught Harry. Either way if Justin was the guy given the responsibility for destroying Bob you’d think after Harry’s trial people would be asking questions about his career as a warden.
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Why? At that point Justin was seen merely as a respected, powerful, retired warden. Why would they question anything about him? The trial was about Harry and whether or not he should keep his head... The house burned so how much evidence would there have been? It isn't like the Book of Kemmler was displayed prominently on Justin's nightstand..
SerScot:
kbrizzle,
--- Quote from: kbrizzle on July 08, 2019, 02:42:47 AM ---@KurtinStGeorge & SerScot
At the end of PG when Harry is talking to Eb, I think it is revealed that the only reason the Council didn’t kill Harry was because Eb personally vouched for him, similar to how Harry did for Molly. This is why Harry, like Molly was placed under the Doom, although I’m unsure if Eb was also placed under it, like Harry is for vouching for Molly.
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Yes, that was part of it. However, as we learned in Proven Guilty that by itself isn’t enough. The Senior Council needs to agree rehab is possible. That suggests to me that they had to find that Justin had gone bad.
Mira,
Because if a Warlock had killed a respected Warden I simply don’t think Eb saying “he’s a good kid don’t kill him” would have carried the day. They needed to agree as to why Harry could kill Dumorne and that Harry’s use of black magic in that context was justified as self defense.
Mira:
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Because if a Warlock had killed a respected Warden I simply don’t think Eb saying “he’s a good kid don’t kill him” would have carried the day. They needed to agree as to why Harry could kill Dumorne and that Harry’s use of black magic in that context was justified as self defense.
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I doubt that it did, however going by what happened to the Korean kid and almost to Molly I doubt that Harry was questioned too closely.. A lot hinges on the soul gaze, and Eb said that what he saw was a kid powerful as hell and angry as hell, but not unredeemable... I think Harry was spared because his talent was considerable and the fact that Eb, who was after all the Blackstaff was willing to be responsible for him under the Doom.. Remember Eb was also under orders to chop Harry the second Harry even hinted at going out of line... We know Eb did cut Harry some slack, he was his grand kid after all.. I also doubt that if the Senior Council knew it at the time they would have allowed Eb to take him in..
kbrizzle:
Even though the WC likely had a good opinion of DuMorne - given that he was Simon’s apprentice (who was on the SC) & a presumably honorable discharge from the wardens after decades of service - Harry’s story had to cast some doubts on that.
The facts as the WC would see them when they capture(?) Harry after Justin’s death were:
* Harry was a teenager who had been trained in the WC/ classical style of wizardry - this had to have been by someone who was on the WC themselves
* Upon a looking at teenage Harry through the Sight, the kid had the taint of an Outsider (HWWB) as well as some, but not a lot of black magic taint - a teenage kid doesn’t have the knowledge or skill to summon an Outsider so someone else likely set one upon him. Teen Harry also hadn’t used black magic consistently enough at this point for him to look like the Korean kid or even Molly
* Harry claimed to be the son of Margaret LeFay who walked a blurry line but was a WC member. She was also on friendly terms with Justin DuMorne. The SC might even know that she was trying to birth a Starborn.
* Harry likely knew enough details about Justin’s mannerisms & magic style to convince those who knew the latter that Harry had to know Justin somewhat well
* If Justin indeed ‘helped’ Harry, why didn’t he tell Harry about the Laws or the WC?
* The Blackstaff soulgazed him & said that the kid was a fundamentally decent person who had the potential for massive power. He likely told the SC that Harry had potential to be a Starborn, explaining the Outsider taint & Martha Liberty’s mysterious comment about what Harry “is supposed to become” at the beginning of SK.
I think these facts are enough for many members of the WC & SC to at least suspect that Justin wasn’t on the up & up. Combined with the fact that the Blackstaff himself is willing to take on the boy as an apprentice & carry out the Doom if Harry broke probation, I think the WC was willing to see where things go.
Also remember that things were relatively peaceful in the mortal world when this happens - the WC is seemingly in control of things so they could afford to be magnanimous. At the time of PG they are greatly diminished & in a war of attrition, fighting for their survival. This makes them far more ruthless when dealing with ‘distractions’.
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