The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Quick question about pre-Storm Front
g33k:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 10, 2019, 08:53:11 PM --- ... No, Harry's first reaction upon finding her in his place was shock, "You're alive." Then he repeats it and then asks her in a kind of angry tone, why she never contacted him? You don't react that way unless you actually thought someone was dead...
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Summer Knight, Ch.Eight (about halfway through (pg.123 in my paperback copy)) --
--- Quote ---"I... I looked for you," I said quietly. "In fire and water.
I had spirits combing the Earth for any trace of you. Hoping that you'd survived."
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--- Quote ---"But where have you been?" I asked. "Elaine, I looked for you for years. Years."
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Elaine had left before the fight concluded.
Harry hadn't seen anything to indicate either way; but when he couldn't find her, he assumed she was dead. It's a reasonable assumption: he's the stronger wizard and (while she's better on the finesse-and-style front) Harry is particularly adept with "finding" things/people/etc (but not vs. one of the Summer Queens, of course!!! But he had no indication she might have such patronage/protection...) .
But he certainly didn't do all that while awaiting trial!
Gman:
I would guess that the WC did not know of Justin being a Warlock because he was a Warden and WC Wizard in good standing. When Harry killed Justin. The WC then investigated Justin (and Harry's claims) and found evidence that he was a Warlock. Sort of like a girl escapes from a serial killer's basement and tells the police. That serial killer was a citizen in good standing and no one looked at some of the minor suspicious things he did, even the neighbors. When the truth comes out then the authorities investigate and find the evidence.
Mira:
--- Quote ---Harry hadn't seen anything to indicate either way; but when he couldn't find her, he assumed she was dead. It's a reasonable assumption: he's the stronger wizard and (while she's better on the finesse-and-style front) Harry is particularly adept with "finding" things/people/etc (but not vs. one of the Summer Queens, of course!!! But he had no indication she might have such patronage/protection...) .
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People never fully give up hope that a lost loved one can be found alive when there is no body to confirm that they are not... But Harry's first reaction says he felt she was dead, he really had no reason to think otherwise.
--- Quote ---I would guess that the WC did not know of Justin being a Warlock because he was a Warden and WC Wizard in good standing. When Harry killed Justin. The WC then investigated Justin (and Harry's claims) and found evidence that he was a Warlock. Sort of like a girl escapes from a serial killer's basement and tells the police. That serial killer was a citizen in good standing and no one looked at some of the minor suspicious things he did, even the neighbors. When the truth comes out then the authorities investigate and find the evidence.
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Yet apparently the evidence wasn't enough to totally convince many on the Council that Harry wasn't a murderer... Otherwise LaFortier wouldn't have been able to use it the way he did as an excuse to take away Harry's wizard status as part of a elaborate political maneuver to placate the Red Court to turn Harry over to them..
Avernite:
--- Quote from: Gman on July 11, 2019, 06:10:11 AM ---I would guess that the WC did not know of Justin being a Warlock because he was a Warden and WC Wizard in good standing. When Harry killed Justin. The WC then investigated Justin (and Harry's claims) and found evidence that he was a Warlock. Sort of like a girl escapes from a serial killer's basement and tells the police. That serial killer was a citizen in good standing and no one looked at some of the minor suspicious things he did, even the neighbors. When the truth comes out then the authorities investigate and find the evidence.
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But Justin wasn't in good standing. He was a groupie of Maggie LeFay and now he had an unknown apprentice on the possible chopping block for black magic.
In fact, that seems much more with what Mira argues - the above is definitely enough to consider Justin suspicious and so if someone calls him a black magician you have to take it seriously - but without proof, you won't say it's that way for sure, and it can later be doubted by LaFortier.
kbrizzle:
@g33k
Thanks for pulling up that quote, it was exactly what I was referencing.
@Mira
I am not convinced that Harry burned Justin’s house to the ground - remember that even when he cuts loose at Bianca’s ball in GP, he burns a dozen people but doesn’t burn down the entire building (although he does damage it severely).
If even the structure of the house is standing & some magical artifacts are not destroyed (like Bob), I believe members of the SC can likely sense black magic residue.
@Avernite
Exactly, and since Justin is dead he is unable to defend himself from any of Harry’s accusations. Circumstantially even Justin was seen as ok person by the WC, the facts gleaned from investigating Harry’s story would cast Justin in a very poor light.
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