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Denarian Short Story
morriswalters:
Even Hand is forced, not one of his better. Marcone is written just as he's ends up being named, Baron. I suppose Jim took some courses in European history. Whatever menace Jim intended for Marcone falls flat. Nicodemus is written like a sociopath.
SerScot:
BA,
--- Quote ---I've never agreed with that. Some people have to know they're the bad guy, at least in a particular situation. Maybe Marcone? I'd have to study Even Hand more to even think about coming to a conclusion on that one.
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It’s not that they don’t recognize their actions as “bad” it is that those folks believe that their bad actions are justified by existing exigencies. Therefore they think they are doing something “bad” to achieve a “greater good”.
kbrizzle:
In general, I would like to see a short story about Nic, or have something about him in book 20 (which would make sense given that it’s part of the BAT & that’s kinda Nic’s goal - remember that Denarians gain power during such times) following the series convention.
There is still some stuff left in Nic’s arc that is of interest & relates to the overall story arc.
Nic seems to believe that he should be given sainthood for his actions & I like the theory that Deidre was sacrificed due to Nfection.
Additionally there would be some revelatory stuff in a short story from Nic’s POV in terms of Anduriel - who is actually in the front seat here?
What is the relationship between Lucifer & the Fallen exactly? Including Nic in the BAT could be a way to introduce higher ranking members of Hell to the series.
I’ve always liked the character & would like to see how he ends up. I don’t think we’ve seen the last of him as of SG.
@Mira
I believe Denarians can definitely be Nfected - what we learn about the way Nemesis operates is that it gives frustrated immortals a way to ‘bend’ their nature - it allows the Fae to lie for example. I would not be surprised if there was a Fallen that was tired of the limitations put on it & wanted a way to break loose.
The argument that the Denarians have as much to lose as everyone does not hold water as seen through the actions of the Nfected Aurora & Maeve.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Kindler on July 02, 2019, 05:15:11 PM ---I mean, if you find out that Nicodemus has been doing all of these evil things in order to stop something much worse, some might start thinking, "Well, would it really be so bad if Harry lost?"
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I'm sitting at about 90% sure they at least think they're doing it to stop something worse. Deirdre's claim about "We are saving the world" makes sense if they see Hell's victory as a lesser harm to the world than, most likely, the Outsiders'.
They can be fanatically certain that Hell winning is the only way to stop something worse and still be dead wrong about it, though - either because Hell's victory would actually be just as bad for the world, or because there's another way to stop Empty Night without destroying most of the mortal world in the process.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if disagreement about how scorched-Earth to go in fighting the Outsiders was the reason why a lot of the Fallen fell in the first place, for that matter. The WoJ about Lucifer trying to prove a point in a dispute with the Almighty could be whether humanity is really worth taking chances outcome of the Outsider war, rather than just cutting loose with everything they've got even though earth would be collateral damage. All the people like Nic and Tessa are anecdotal evidence that humanity isn't worth sparing.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: kbrizzle on July 08, 2019, 03:01:14 AM ---Nic seems to believe that he should be given sainthood for his actions & I like the theory that Deidre was sacrificed due to Nfection.
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I can't point to any proof that Deirdre wasn't N-fected, but it seems unlikely. She was sacrificed because she was the only one Nic trusted to open the last gate after dying. That level of trust doesn't seem like something he'd invest in someone he believed to be mentally compromised by an outsider influence. (I still don't get why he didn't throw a couple of squires at that problem and play the odds that one of his pet fanatics would stay loyal before wasting Deirdre as a last resort if they didn't, though...)
At minimum, though, someone else has to have been behind the Hellfire attack on Arctis Tor. Deirdre is among the Denarians seen fighting on page most often, and she's never shown any affinity for any spells beyond shapeshifting. So even if she is infected, probably at least one of Tessa / Rosanna / Namshiel are also.
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