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Regenbogen:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 15, 2019, 03:46:32 PM ---
What is weird is can one have more than one "true love?" By that I mean before he met Susan and fell in love with her, Elaine sounded like Harry's true love, however that might be because she was his first love... And yeah, I am familiar with the saying, " my, his, her, one and only true love." The protection from Susan remained until he hooked up with Luccio.. He loved her but she wasn't his true love, Susan remained that until she died... She still might be as far as Harry is concerned even if she is dead, but he is no longer protected.
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Luccio didn' t love him back. Susan did.
And does it really have to be the 'one true' love or is simple true love sufficient?
And yes, I believe there can be several 'true loves' in one's life.
I know a lot of people including my husband and myself who have at least loved twice.
My two loved ones felt exactly the same. But different to the two before that.
Both times it felt like true love. And no, the first one wasn't my first boyfriend and I wasn't a teenager anymore.
But love can fade through the years. Not everyone finds his or her true love. Sometimes the one you love doesn't love you back. Sometimes your true love passes away while you survive. Sometimes you find someone to love again. And sometimes two loved one's stay together their whole life.
Can one truefully say the second person one loved, wasn't loved as much as the first or vice versa?
Bad Alias:
I'm not sure "true love" is something that is even defined in Jim's mind. It certainly isn't in mine. I believe he uses the bible quote for agape love, which is God's unconditional love for man as opposed to, sometimes expressly, eros and philia. It's the 1 Corinthians 13:4-8 bit.
morriswalters:
For the purpose of this I define intimacy as someone being inside your personal zone. Examples, prolonged eye contact, inside your personal space, touching you(having sex is a subset of touching). Jim uses all of these at one point or another, in one fashion or another.
For the purposes of modeling what I think Jim is trying to represent with Thomas, I think of a capacitor. Justine's inserting another person into the equation would be like bleeding off a capacitor. As long as the cap is grounded it can't build up enough charge to hurt you. As long as Thomas isn't monogamous whatever it is that hurts him when he is with Justine never builds up enough to be harmful. YMMV.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 15, 2019, 09:01:15 PM ---For the purpose of this I define intimacy as someone being inside your personal zone. Examples, prolonged eye contact, inside your personal space, touching you(having sex is a subset of touching). Jim uses all of these at one point or another, in one fashion or another.
For the purposes of modeling what I think Jim is trying to represent with Thomas, I think of a capacitor. Justine's inserting another person into the equation would be like bleeding off a capacitor. As long as the cap is grounded it can't build up enough charge to hurt you. As long as Thomas isn't monogamous whatever it is that hurts him when he is with Justine never builds up enough to be harmful. YMMV.
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Apparently if Thomas had met Justine and loved her before his first kill the Hunger demon would have been burned out of him... This is why Lord Raith manipulated him into his first sexual encounter the first kill is critical to the host going on to be a WCV..
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 15, 2019, 09:01:15 PM ---(having sex is a subset of touching).
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I've been doing it so wrong. ;)
--- Quote from: Mira on August 16, 2019, 10:25:18 AM ---Apparently if Thomas had met Justine and loved her before his first kill the Hunger demon would have been burned out of him.
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It was only when they risked their lives for one another was it an expression of "true love." "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends" John 15:13. Once again, agape love. Before that, they had sex multiple times. Harry compared Justine to Burger King, saying he wouldn't eat all his meals there even though it's his favorite restaurant.
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