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KurtinStGeorge:
And yet Harry didn't have that ability in Blood Rites when Inari entered his room.  Harry knew Inari was Thomas and Lara's youngest sister.  Mouse was growling a puppy growl at Inari, Harry noticed a change in the way she moved; he called it "serpentine movement," he saw her eyes start to go silver and he said what he felt was different from what he felt when Lara did her thing, "but just as potent."  The next thing Inari is running her tongue along Harry's collarbone and then kissing him and only Harry's immunity saved him.

So I'm not sensing that a newby White Court vampire is any less dangerous than an experienced one.  The mortal side of a new White Court vamp is immature and inexperienced, but the demon inside instinctively knows how to entice, entrap and kill.   

Slowpool:

--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on July 28, 2019, 05:38:04 PM ---And yet Harry didn't have that ability in Blood Rites when Inari entered his room.  Harry knew Inari was Thomas and Lara's youngest sister.  Mouse was growling a puppy growl at Inari, Harry noticed a change in the way she moved; he called it "serpentine movement," he saw her eyes start to go silver and he said what he felt was different from what he felt when Lara did her thing, "but just as potent."  The next thing Inari is running her tongue along Harry's collarbone and then kissing him and only Harry's immunity saved him.

So I'm not sensing that a newby White Court vampire is any less dangerous than an experienced one.  The mortal side of a new White Court vamp is immature and inexperienced, but the demon inside instinctively knows how to entice, entrap and kill.

--- End quote ---
  In the bedroom, he was worn out and distracted and, most importantly, had never been directly subjected to a WC vampire's feeding influence before.  He'd developed an image of Inari in his head as this sweet, innocent girl with terrible taste in pizza, and was unprepared when she came into his room.

  Harry of 8-10 years later, however, knows exactly what's up.  He quickly puts the pieces together and deduces Tania's identity well enough to know what she's probably capable of.  And as we've heard Harry himself say to Madeline, Lara can do some amazing things to your brain just by sitting in a chair.  Tania had to put her hand directly on Harry's skin.  And her inexperience is played up as a major part of the story- she set up baby's first gambit against someone she absolutely could not beat, and Lara allowed it to happen to drill some humility into her.  That's implied to be the whole reason Riley was there.

  Granted, the idea that Inari's influence was apparently just as potent as Lara's could be significant.  However, I think it could mean two different things:

 1:  Just as the text says, Inari's Hunger is just as strong as Lara's in general.  We do have a tidbit, though, from Justine (I think it was in Backup?), describing Thomas' Hunger as stronger than anyone's "but her's".  I can't help but assume that Justine's referring to Lara.
 
 2:  Inari, in that moment, had no frame of reference for the Hunger's influence, and thus had no control over it.  Lara's been at the game for a while- she knows exactly how much of the come hither to project to achieve the desired result.  At that point, Harry had only been subject to Lara's passive appeal, which implies to me that Inari's full-force attack was only as potent as Lara's everyday swagger.

  I simply don't see the Winter Mantle blocking the sexy broadcast from a WC.  There's no justification that I can remember that can't be explained by the fact that Harry is just more aware and competent than he used to be, combined with the fact that Tania is new to this game.
 
  If there were such a defense mechanism in place for the mantle bearer, I'd think it was more along the lines of the Winter Lady's automatic defenses against sex.  Yeah, sure, you might bombard them with the brainwaves, but the second you get deep enough in their system to start feeding, they tear your arms off.  That's much more on-brand than generic "I'm immune to your stupid sexy charms".

  Correct me if I'm wrong on any of my recollections here.

Bad Alias:
Maybe it won't matter because of Harry's relationship with Murphy?

123Chikadee:
Yeah, I think experience is what's making Harry better at throwing off sexy-time whammies, so while it'd be tricky with fighting a Lara who'd probably have a reason to go all out. Harry would have to use a sucker punch. Dunno if his relationship with Murphy is at that stage yet, but I bet it could be close.
I don't think that the Winter Court is gonna have anymore shake-ups for now. Summer maybe but I kinda doubt it. It think both White Council and White Court are gonna have the most shake-ups, even more so for the latter. Mainly b/c it's about time they had another shake-up.

Kindler:
Harry's been shown to stop the White Court sex whammy on his own before. I'm not sure we can use Jury Duty as much of an example, and I think Lara's sex whammy would be significantly whammier than a White Court newbie.

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