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Who dies in Peace Talks

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Regenbogen:
@Mira
No, not off page but maybe in the next book, which imo could easily fit in between Peace Talks and Christmas Eve.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Kindler on June 28, 2019, 03:01:17 PM --- A Senior Council member and the Blackstaff snuffing it would have seriously significant consequences, and I don't see those consequences getting a chance to be explored in Mirror, Mirror.

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The consequences of the death of a Senior Council member usually don't get much play in the DF. In Turn Coat, it's really the consequence of Morgan's supposed treason that gets the focus. Not really the death of LaFortier. Similar situation with the death of Simon. The focus is more on what that means for Harry in the vote that's about to take place.

One of the things I would like to know a lot more about in the DF, is the White Council. What is it? How does it work? What are the rules? How does apprenticing work? And so on, but Harry is never going to be too involved in all that because of how he came to know the Council, and how it came to know him.

Kindler:
But the consequences were explored in Turn Coat, and they came due in Changes; Cristos, who organized the Red Court "conciliation" attempt, and is one of the more likely suspects to poisoning half the wardens and Listens-to-Wind. Imagine if another seat opened up on the Senior Council, or two, or three. And, because the books focus on Harry, we only really got to see what he was doing in Turn Coat/Changes. Everything about the White Council's situation is secondhand information, rumor, and speculation. All we know is that Lafortier was the only voice on the Senior Council who a big bloc of the WC's rank and file felt represented them, and they threatened secession and/or civil war.

The Merlin caved once to prevent a war, and was smart enough not to trust Cristos, especially after Peabody. But he's in a classic Appeasement scenario now; if another seat opens up, that same bloc is going to be demanding another spot. And, since threatening to fight for it worked once, they'll do it again to extort the SC and the Merlin. Plus now they've got "their" guy on the SC advocating for them.

Basically, if a Senior Council member dies in Peace Talks (and the scope of the conflict will, according to Christmas Eve, include thousands dead, so there's a good chance the Masquerade may fall, or start to slip, which'll create a whole host of fresh problems for the White Council), then there is going to be major, major fallout. The Merlin is going to have to choose between civil war and appeasement. That's if he's still alive, too. Part of me wonders if Jim might kill off everyone on the SC except Cristos to take the Merlin title for himself. Though I can also picture Ebenezer surviving and fighting a guerrilla war with the Grey Council, which would be as badass as can be reasonably expected.

All of that aside, I agree with you. I really hope Peace Talks gives us a serious, in-depth look into the White Council, how it works, what the rules are, etc. I want a thirty page infodump on that very topic.

Bad Alias:
I agree that the consequences were/will be huge. I'm just saying it doesn't have to, and likely won't, show up directly on page immediately and in detail in the next book.

There was a good deal of talk at the end of Turn Coat and some visible consequences in Changes, but we haven't even heard mention of Cristos since then. So, my hypothesis is that, if one or more Senior Council members die in Peace Talks, we would get a similar scene to the one in Turn Coat where Eb and Harry discuss the ramifications. We may see something in Mirror Mirror, depending on how much time Harry spends in his reality, but we won't see a whole lot in that book.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on July 02, 2019, 06:51:40 PM ---... We may see something in Mirror Mirror, depending on how much time Harry spends in his reality, but we won't see a whole lot in that book.
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I expect that in Mirror Mirror, Harry-prime will learn that mirror-Harry is a member of a "Council" (or dare I say... Circle?) that is in full-on Sith-mode.

It'll be interesting to see how much Jim actually pays homage to the various elements of the TOS-Trek episode.
 

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