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Ramírez & Lara Raith soulgaze

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g33k:

--- Quote from: kbrizzle on June 27, 2019, 12:25:33 AM ---... I mean Ramírez knew that before the soulgaze (hence be pulled a knife on her pre-Soulgaze)...

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Maybe he knew it, in his head.  But his hormones were screaming louder (it's what the Whamps do).

After the soulgaze, Carlos had a direct experience of the demon/phage, and what that meant.  He no longer merely "knew" what a WCV was, he felt it, in a visceral personal-experience manner.

Sorry, though, but this part:

--- Quote from: kbrizzle on June 27, 2019, 12:25:33 AM --- ... after the soulgaze he seems to be telling her that his guard is not up to dissuade her. 
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I cannot parse this bit clearly.  I'm not sure what you're saying.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: g33k on June 27, 2019, 07:04:34 PM ---After the soulgaze, Carlos had a direct experience of the demon/phage, and what that meant.  He no longer merely "knew" what a WCV was, he felt it, in a visceral personal-experience manner.

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In a way that will never fade. He will always be able to experience it fresh if he ever needs reminding. I think this is probably similar to Harry having soulgazed Rasmussen and Ursiel then resisting a fallen's shadow longer than anyone ever had. It might be why he was able to do it.

kbrizzle:
@Kindler & g33k
Agreed that Ramírez saw Lara’s demon & it will always a reminder to him to be cautious.

The part that is interesting about the exchange is the part I have highlighted in the OP. What does Ramírez mean when he tells Lara that “it wasn’t to dissuade you”??

Bad Alias:
Carlos did it because he knew giving in was a bad idea, but he also knew that simply knowing in a rational way wasn't enough. He needed to know in a way that would prevent him from giving in to temptation.

kbrizzle:
@Bad Alias
Agreed, but it seems like there was more going on under the surface.

Lara clearly likes Ramírez even more after the soul gaze, but Ramírez doesn’t just consider Lara to be an immoral vampire - he seems to respect her more after the soul gaze & maybe even realizes that she is trying to help him better navigate the Whamp Court by playing the come hither at him instead just being a succubus, perhaps that’s why he wasn’t trying to dissuade her with his knife?

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