The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Proven Guilty speculation, because, why not?
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on June 19, 2019, 08:10:45 PM ---This is the worst time for me. The last mile so to speak. The drug is close, I can see the dealer walking down the street.;D
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;D
Let's try to get a list of the attacks and the details of them.
These are the ones I recall:
1. Pell in the bathroom.
2. The screening room.
3. The scarecrow in the parking lot.
4. The final attack where the alien slips through Harry's web. Did that start in the kitchen?
1 and 3 are clearly targeted attacks. The purpose of 1 is to secure access to the way at the theater. Harry thinks the purpose of 3 is to kill Glau.
2 could have been to grab Molly, but I don't see it unless the fetch went off mission. I also don't see the purpose of 4 unless we assume that it was known that Harry would successfully send the fetches to Molly.
What are the known characteristics of the attacks?
--- Quote from: morriswalters on June 19, 2019, 08:10:45 PM ---The other attacks seemed to have required a summoner, someone who called the fetches to a place to wreak havoc and murder.
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Weren't they sent, not summoned?
g33k:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on June 19, 2019, 03:38:32 AM ---...
@g33k
Jenny Greenteeth manages to pass for Georgia well enough.
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True. I'll argue that this was an exceptional case. Since she was not just "playing mortal" but playing a specific mortal, I bet there was some very-specific magic involved.
It takes Harry just a few minutes in Summer Knight to see through Mab's disguise (part of it was Harry just being a good PI, deducing things; but part of it was spotting odd non-mortal discrepancies); he realized that "Grum" was fae just moments after the conflict began (betting his best shot on an iron nail to do more damage than the wound otherwise would).
Harry remarks -- several times -- that most faeries (most supernaturals, in general) don't do "mortal" well at all.
I bet Jenny is just an individual with exceptionally-good mortal-ish glamour, and/or that some specific body-double magic made for a better rendition of "mortal."
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on June 19, 2019, 08:32:32 PM ---Let's try to get a list of the attacks and the details of them.
These are the ones I recall:
1. Pell in the bathroom.
2. The screening room.
3. The scarecrow in the parking lot.
4. The final attack where the alien slips through Harry's web. Did that start in the kitchen?
1 and 3 are clearly targeted attacks. The purpose of 1 is to secure access to the way at the theater. Harry thinks the purpose of 3 is to kill Glau.
2 could have been to grab Molly, but I don't see it unless the fetch went off mission. I also don't see the purpose of 4 unless we assume that it was known that Harry would successfully send the fetches to Molly.
What are the known characteristics of the attacks?
Weren't they sent, not summoned?
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Know them by what they accomplished. Putting aside the targeted attacks, of 1 and 3 for a moment. If they were sent rather than summoned who used the ward and the myrk against Harry and Rawlins? The myrk would have been effective at neutralizing Rawlins, the ward was aimed at Harry, specifically. That puts a magic user in the room, and we get a flash of them. They were summoned. This keeps it simple, otherwise you have someone of both sides. This is Harry getting beat over the head with a stupid stick. Hey Gorilla, lookee here. Magic and fetches. Which sets up the 4th attack. Harry is predictable. The attacker has him under a stupid spell, Harry will do what he does, attempt to turn the table on the summoner and send the fetches after who he assumes is both the beacon and the summoner. Since the spell is locked to the beacon the fetches go straight to her.
--- Quote from: Chapter 23 Proven Guilty ---“Sure,” Bob said. “I mean, you have everything you need for that. You know the phages are after fear, and that they’re probably using his power as a beacon. Your web tells you something is stirring. You conjure up a big ball of fear, target the same beacon the phages are using, and let it fly.”
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Under interesting side notes. Who could know that LC was defective and could kill Harry? Certainly the Mothers. When Harry is shown the Outer Gates the Mothers see multiple possibilities brought on by doing so. We can assume they could see the effects of Harry's death using LC. Vadderung tells us that it is better to change the future then attempt to change the past. So if Harry is important to them, then they would send in someone to do the fix before the future becomes the past. Yea Mab.
And just for fun Do the Outer Gates share a lot of the functionality of LC?
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---About the magic. Any number of things can use magic in the books, but either you posit an off page actor who is never exposed in the book or you posit someone in the book whose identity is concealed. In the first murder attack someone uses a ward and maybe a myrk. In the second someone disables the lights and alarms. If not Marling then who else in the book could it be, and who ran from the screening room?
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I think it's completely reasonable that it was Marling.
I think it's reasonable that Marling was a faerie.
I do not think it's reasonable to claim that faeries are the only beings capable of using illusion magic without detection.
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on June 20, 2019, 02:44:27 AM ---I do not think it's reasonable to claim that faeries are the only beings capable of using illusion magic without detection.
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Ok,who?
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