The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
How often does Harry's withholding of information actually get people hurt...
morriswalters:
No. Harry is protecting them.
However, remember Mab's words to Harry after the fight on Demonreach in Cold Days. Quoting Mab.
--- Quote ---You made her curious about what you could do, and nurtured that curiosity with silence.
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And.
--- Quote ---I stood there with my mouth open for a second. "That...that isn't...what I did."
Mab leaned closer to me and said, "That is precisely what you did," she said.
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I creatively edited those quotes. What he does in Changes is the one time the trope is turned upside down. He gets her to use Black Magic to wipe his mind so that Mab won't know he caused his own death. Thus according to your addiction theory, giving heroin to a heroin addict. Bails on her, violating her probation. And gets her shot and mind f****d at Chichen Itza. If there is a clear example that Harry has hurt someone, this is it. Anyway, as usual, it's been fun. Thanks.
Mira:
--- Quote ---However, remember Mab's words to Harry after the fight on Demonreach in Cold Days. Quoting Mab.
Quote
You made her curious about what you could do, and nurtured that curiosity with silence.
And.
Quote
I stood there with my mouth open for a second. "That...that isn't...what I did."
Mab leaned closer to me and said, "That is precisely what you did," she said.
I creatively edited those quotes. What he does in Changes is the one time the trope is turned upside down. He gets her to use Black Magic to wipe his mind so that Mab won't know he caused his own death. Thus according to your addiction theory, giving heroin to a heroin addict. Bails on her, violating her probation. And gets her shot and mind f****d at Chichen Itza. If there is a clear example that Harry has hurt someone, this is it. Anyway, as usual, it's been fun. Thanks.
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I repeat it gets complicated.... Just what do you mean by "creative editing?"
As I said it gets complicated, first of all, it is still her choice whether to mind wipe Harry or not.. Molly admits that freely.. The Fae may not outright lie, however they can twist the truth to their own purpose, Mab wanted Molly herself, she knows Harry better than he knows himself and uses that knowledge to manipulate him... Molly went to C.I. of her own free will, if I remember correctly Harry didn't want her to go in the first place.. In the spirit of what Mab told him about he should not have kept magical knowledge from Molly, that is why she went warlock in the first place is B.S. To begin
with Harry had no clue she had talent in the first place until Proven Guilty.. He didn't know until then that Charity had had talent and misused it when young and kept that knowledge quiet... So while Mab spoke the truth as far as Molly looking up to Harry, she omitted the above, which is rather critical.. Also as a huge advocate of parental responsibility, her parents are the ones that bare the blame.. They never told him that Charity had talent or what to do if it shows up in one of their kids..
Charity nursed Harry's wounds, but she never approved of him or his magic, if he tried to teach anything to young Molly if he had guessed she was talented, Charity would have had made a coat with his guts...
morriswalters:
The passages I quoted would have been better had they been longer, I was lazy.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on June 10, 2019, 12:12:19 PM ---The passages I quoted would have been better had they been longer, I was lazy.
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With all due respect, do not be lazy about your quotes.. Give page numbers as well as book titles, context is very important... Not saying you are doing this, but quotes without context or edited can be easily twisted one way or another... At least by giving the page number, oh and saying it is hard back or paperback as well because the pages don't always line up, gives the rest of us to go back and read for ourselves... It enhances the debate and give both sides of it better grounds to support or refute..
noblehunter:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 10, 2019, 03:02:15 PM --- With all due respect, do not be lazy about your quotes.. Give page numbers as well as book titles, context is very important... Not saying you are doing this, but quotes without context or edited can be easily twisted one way or another... At least by giving the page number, oh and saying it is hard back or paperback as well because the pages don't always line up, gives the rest of us to go back and read for ourselves... It enhances the debate and give both sides of it better grounds to support or refute..
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Major downside of ebooks/audiobooks. Much more difficult to direct people to the right spot for quotes.
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