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Further proof that black magic is connected to Outsiders
Bad Alias:
I mean, I could see getting behind an argument that Lily wasn't the Summer Knight when she was a statue, because, well, she was a statue. But she had to have been the Knight before (and after) she was the statue, or there wouldn't have been an imbalance.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on June 13, 2019, 07:10:21 PM ---I mean, I could see getting behind an argument that Lily wasn't the Summer Knight when she was a statue, because, well, she was a statue. But she had to have been the Knight before (and after) she was the statue, or there wouldn't have been an imbalance.
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I guess that works... She was SK for a moment, then she was a statue (taking the knight-mantle out of play, hence imbalance), then she was SK for another moment, then she was SL.
The SK mantle was there all along, but it was hidden... REALLY hidden. If Titania cannot even FIND her Knight / mantle -- to which she is mystically attuned/attached -- it says something about whether said "Knight" is in fact BEING a Knight. Hence, imbalance.
Still... From the POV where it was originally raised (the passing of a Mantle) I guess the SK mantle DOES pass to Lily during the course of the books (just before the start of SK (the novel)). I'm still disinclude this one from any attempt to draw conclusions -- I don't think the books give any details of Lily's "Knighting" but given Aurora arranged it under influence of N'fection, I suspect it isn't a datum from which to generalize about how things do/should work.
Bad Alias:
It is of limited value. It implies some things, all/most of which I think were already stated by Bob, so how helpful is that?
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: g33k on June 13, 2019, 07:38:36 PM ---Still... From the POV where it was originally raised (the passing of a Mantle) I guess the SK mantle DOES pass to Lily during the course of the books (just before the start of SK (the novel)). I'm still disinclude this one from any attempt to draw conclusions -- I don't think the books give any details of Lily's "Knighting" but given Aurora arranged it under influence of N'fection, I suspect it isn't a datum from which to generalize about how things do/should work.
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Good luck on working that out. I don't think Jim has. However, this.
--- Quote ---"How does the mantle pass on from one Knight to the next?"
Mother Summer smiled, but the expression was a grim one. "It returns to the nearest reflection of itself. To the nearest vessel of Summer. She, in turn, chooses the next Knight."
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It's conceivable that Mab could have shoved the Mantle onto Harry since evidently Aurora did to Lily. But Aurora was always going to kill Lily and give the mantle to Slate so it wouldn't have mattered if Lily objected. Harry on the other hand would have been a pissed off Knight with murder in his eyes.
Bad Alias:
I'm not certain Aurora forced the mantle onto Lily. I'm not sure she could. If she could, that's where I'd put my money.
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