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Motivation for fixing Little Chicago?
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---I'd suggest rereading Proven Guilty with the specific purpose of looking for something that stands out as odd. With the knowledge that something is going on under the surface. With that point of view it may be possible to find something.
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I've looked, and while there is plenty of odd stuff, I've yet to notice anything that looks like "TT!Harry is running around trying to save Molly and assorted innocents."
kbrizzle:
@g33k
Fair enough, my main point against Mab is that she had so much else going on that directly threatened her realm at the time that her nipping out to Chicago to fix Harry’s magical artifact seems like a bit much.
@nadia & g33k
I could see Harry forcing himself to not change the past apart from a few little things here & there - it would be hard & character-building, but technically things work out for him & his allies in PG (no one dies).
Also recall that Odin says to Harry in CD that once an event has happened it takes an almost insurmountable amount of energy to change that event - the law of conservation of history. However Bob points out with his car being stolen example that subtle enough oblique hints can alter the outcome enough that the event that is coming to pass may be somewhat mitigated.
@morriswalters
If you’re being serious about the question regarding Sandra Marling - likely a Black Council agent or a BCV stooge.
@groinkick
I believe a lot of us have done exactly that which is why PG keeps coming up in this forum. Out of curiosity, have you found anything interesting from your rereads?
Here are some of mine:
https://www.paranetonline.com/index.php/topic,52162.msg2314055.html#msg2314055
and
https://www.paranetonline.com/index.php/topic,52161.msg2314053.html#msg2314053
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---I could see Harry forcing himself to not change the past apart from a few little things here & there - it would be hard & character-building, but technically things work out for him & his allies in PG (no one dies).
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Innocent people die.
morriswalters:
--- Quote ---@morriswalters
If you’re being serious about the question regarding Sandra Marling - likely a Black Council agent or a BCV stooge.
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Almost every thread of the book is explained by Cold Days when Maeve is killed. The notable exceptions being, who fixed LC and who is Sandra Marling. And as a minor point, how did the Gatekeeper know there was Black Magic afoot in Chicago.
kbrizzle:
@nadia
Sure, but we’ve seen what happens to people when they try to interfere when it’s someone else’s time to die. Marcone saving Harry in DB from the Corpsetaker has terrible consequences for him down the line. Harry trying to read Gard’s expression in SmF also doesn’t end well for Michael (since it was the gun being carried by Harry that Tessa used to shoot him).
So while I think Harry will be sorely tempted to change the fact that innocents die in the phage attacks, he will realize that he shouldn’t change the past; or that changing the past will simply create an alternate timeline where he is able to save them, & one where he doesn’t.
@morriswalters
I don’t know that every thread is solved by CD. Here are some of them:
* Who invites Madrigal Raith to SplatterCon!!! a year ago? Has Maeve been Nfected for a year at this point?
* Why is Mab in the Winter garden? What is the purpose of the garden? What are the other statues in the garden?
* Who all were involved in the attack on Arctis Tor? When did it occur?
* Who hits Harry’s car in the beginning?
* Why were Summer & Winter forces aligned at the border for months against each other despite the Ramps encroaching on their territory?
Regarding your earlier question about the Gatekeeper - he seems to be able to sense black magic outside of linear time - no doubt his mantle & eye help.
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