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I think Murphy is going to get killed here is why
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---Your asking the unanswerable. The text is what it is. You can ask why all the characters act as they do, but the only answer is what the text gives you.
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We're discussing. It's fun.
--- Quote ---I dislike this story line but I'm fairly sure that Jim doesn't care.
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This.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on May 30, 2019, 03:29:01 PM ---Your asking the unanswerable. The text is what it is. You can ask why all the characters act as they do, but the only answer is what the text gives you. This is meant to reveal a crisis of faith. Butcher harps on faith throughout the books. And faith isn't about facts. This is about how you deal with things when fear and uncertainty become the over riding emotions. The whole point of the chase sequence is to give Butters the reassurance that Jim has decided he needs. Butters screws the pooch and his friends forgive him and Harry regains his Superman cred and Butters faith is restored. Thus setting up the final act. I dislike this story line but I'm fairly sure that Jim doesn't care.
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Stuff happens off page as well, when a character goes off the rails with a few clues as to why, sometimes the reader has to fill in the blanks... Sometimes the reader is wrong and other times the reader nails it, that is what is fun... Oh Jim cares, he wants us to continue to buy his books.... ::)
morriswalters:
--- Quote ---Oh Jim cares, he wants us to continue to buy his books.... ::)
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Only in aggregate. Books can't be written by a committee. Which is the way it should be.
However the motivations for the characters have to be apparent, otherwise it's random noise with no meaning. Chapter one lays out the themes. If Butters has doubts about Harry, Harry himself also harbors doubts. They haven't been communicating. Mab is standing in the center preventing Harry from keeping his lines of communications open, to manipulate him. So Skin Game in one sense is about the characters reconnecting and reestablishing those bonds of trust and faith in each other after a period when those ties have weakened. And Jim Ratchets up the pressure by giving Anduriel the ability to listen from Shadows. Butters is a pale refection of Anduriel, wanting to know Harry's intentions, for much the same reasons. And it also signals Harry reconnecting to the larger world, the White Council and the Wardens. So this is how I interpret what I read.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on May 30, 2019, 07:04:37 PM ---Only in aggregate. Books can't be written by a committee. Which is the way it should be.
However the motivations for the characters have to be apparent, otherwise it's random noise with no meaning. Chapter one lays out the themes. If Butters has doubts about Harry, Harry himself also harbors doubts. They haven't been communicating. Mab is standing in the center preventing Harry from keeping his lines of communications open, to manipulate him. So Skin Game in one sense is about the characters reconnecting and reestablishing those bonds of trust and faith in each other after a period when those ties have weakened. And Jim Ratchets up the pressure by giving Anduriel the ability to listen from Shadows. Butters is a pale refection of Anduriel, wanting to know Harry's intentions, for much the same reasons. And it also signals Harry reconnecting to the larger world, the White Council and the Wardens. So this is how I interpret what I read.
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You are leaving out a couple of things.... First of all, Butters has nothing to do with Mab, so he wouldn't know what she has been up to... Second of all, Butters has been working with Murphy in the fight against the Fomen, she has had personal contact with Harry because she visited him on the island during the year... She seemed to know about the misgivings that Butters has developed, and it appears to this reader that she did nothing to change his perception.
morriswalters:
I'm leaving out all sorts of things. I'm just showing you my mindset. As to your response, maybe Murphy is a bad leader, maybe Butters is a crybaby, or maybe rhetorically speaking, it's three in the morning and the darkness is weighing on everybody, as it does when your tired and a little frightened. Lacking any text to clarify this point, provides an opportunity for the reader to speculate. This is a good thing.
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