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Easy evocations cost?
nadia.skylark:
How much refresh do people think it should cost to buy a power that allows you to use the Nevernever's "easy evocations" ability on Earth? Should there be an upgrade available to let you use normal-strength spellcasting without stress as well (this should probably be limited to evocations that are weaker than your conviction+refinement)? If so, how much should that cost? Should it be split into two upgrades, one for evocations weaker than just your conviction, and one for evocations at your conviction+refinement?
Sanctaphrax:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on April 12, 2019, 05:49:39 PM ---How much refresh do people think it should cost to buy a power that allows you to use the Nevernever's "easy evocations" ability on Earth?
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2 Refresh, maybe?
I's a real nice trick, but easy evocations lack the punch of real evocations. The only real differences between using easy evocations and using Fists are range and that you get to use one of your best skills plus your power bonuses.
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on April 12, 2019, 05:49:39 PM ---Should there be an upgrade available to let you use normal-strength spellcasting without stress as well (this should probably be limited to evocations that are weaker than your conviction+refinement)?
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I don't think so. The ceiling on spellcaster power is already very high, and the risk of running out of juice is part of what gives evocation its personality.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---2 Refresh, maybe?
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Thanks!
--- Quote ---The only real differences between using easy evocations and using Fists are range and that you get to use one of your best skills plus your power bonuses.
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Is is power bonuses? I've never been sure if it was that or if it was control bonuses.
--- Quote ---I don't think so. The ceiling on spellcaster power is already very high, and the risk of running out of juice is part of what gives evocation its personality.
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Good point. The only character that I can think of in the books that would have this power would be the Archive, so it should probably just be treated as a plot device thing.
What do you think about importing the combat wizard stunt from Dresden Files Accelerated, which gives you two extra stress boxes for the purposes of spellcasting?
Sanctaphrax:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on April 13, 2019, 04:43:39 AM ---Is is power bonuses? I've never been sure if it was that or if it was control bonuses.
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Book says power. Makes sense, given that you're using Conviction.
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on April 13, 2019, 04:43:39 AM ---What do you think about importing the combat wizard stunt from Dresden Files Accelerated, which gives you two extra stress boxes for the purposes of spellcasting?
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Not a fan. I remember someone homebrewing a power giving +1 box per refresh spent, which seems like a fairer deal to me.
A stunt giving two stress boxes seems a fair bit better than Inhuman Mental Toughness or the two mild consequences that YS says a stunt can give you for a specific purpose.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---A stunt giving two stress boxes seems a fair bit better than Inhuman Mental Toughness or the two mild consequences that YS says a stunt can give you for a specific purpose.
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I thought that Inhuman Mental Toughness gave two stress boxes plus armor:1? And the stress boxes for a combat magic stunt would be limited to only magic, rather than anything else.
And if you can get two mild consequences, isn't that the equivalent of 4 stress boxes for the cost of minor problems sticking around for a scene?
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