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This I Believe
Slowpool:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on April 03, 2019, 01:19:08 AM ---Andi might have taken some sort of lasting injuries in CD, but from the brief mention of her in the Butters short Day One, she's not by any means vegetative.
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--- Quote from: Con on April 03, 2019, 04:40:54 AM ---Butters mentions in his short story that Andi and He haven't held back the newbs in their Guild for World of Warcraft. I doubt he'd say that if Andi was in a coma.
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Good catch. I had forgotten she was mentioned in Day One. Yeah, there's no way she's completely out. There might be some physical issues, maybe a touch of brain damage, but there's not much to suggest even that.
kbrizzle:
@DonBugen
--- Quote from: DonBugen on April 02, 2019, 01:41:06 PM ---• [Ebenezer] We don't exactly know how Nemesis transmits from person to person. Presumably, it's not something as communicable as a normal disease. There would, after all, be no reason why it needed to try to manipulate Lily and Fix if Maeve could have infected them just as easily. With that being said, you're correct that Nemesis would have recognized Harry as a threat, even if Evil Eb didn't. So I'm backing off on him being nemefected.
However, I don't believe for a second he's not still lying. He pretty much says so at the end of Changes. That's twice that he's concealed something huge and important and critical to Harry. Lies by omission are still lies, and Eb DID say in Blood Rites that everything was out in the open.
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Just a point about the last sentence about Eb saying everything is out in the open. At the end of Changes, Harry specifically asks Eb if everything was out in the open (after finding out that Eb is his grandfather) & Eb responds that everything is never out in the open. But unlike in Blood Rites, Harry understands that Eb needs to keep a few secrets (just like Harry is keeping things from him). Given that Eb is Harry’s grandfather, I don’t see him leading Harry down the left-hand path out of malevolence.
On a separate note, how has the info Eb has kept from Harry caused Harry to come to harm? I assume the points you’re referring to are in Blood Rites, when he didn’t tell Harry that he was Margaret Le Fay’s teacher & that he was the Blackstaff, & in Changes when he didn’t tell Harry that he was his grandfather.
* Family relationship: Eb doesn’t mention to Harry that he was Margaret’s father & teacher for a few reasons. When Eb first meets Harry, he is unsure if Harry has been Nfected by DuMorne (this is presumably why Eb is supposed to kill Harry if “acts rebellious”). Additionally Eb feels that it was his fault that Margaret went on to lead the life she did, & in BR one can feel his shame about the souring of the relationship. Eb also didn’t want Harry to go gunning for Lord Raith, who he knew to be beyond Harry’s powers, or in general inherit Eb’s enemies. Regardless, Eb has been a rather grandfatherly presence in Harry’s life post-DuMorne.
* Blackstaff: A lot of things in the wizarding world seem to work under the “once you’re wise enough, you’ll know” principle. In BR, Harry clearly wasn’t ready to see why such a position would be a necessity given the meta-events (Outsiders) that he’s unaware of. Given Harry’s reaction to the news, it seems to me that Eb was right to keep this tidbit from Harry until a later time
Yuillegan:
Interesting ideas all. I agree with a few and the rest are just as unlikely as any other theory here. I will note that Harry always talks about height so unless Cowl is magically concealing his height (which is damn impressive considering what we know of magic) is probably enough of a factor to rule out Harry. Also Harry does describe just two features of Cowls (apart from his robes and magic). His voice (distorted by magic) and that he has old scars on his arms (in Dead Beat at the climax). I have my own theory on who it is, and I think it is rather obvious but time will tell.
Merlin has been ruled out.
Vadderung might be running a game on Harry, but remember he is tempered by his benevolent side (Kringle). So I suspect it is more a Dumbledore type game - best of intentions, designed to cause maximum damage to the enemy and probably will cause Harry a whole lot of grief. Harry has always been somewhat of a tool/sacrificial lamb.
Bacchus:
as far as the Odin angle goes lets see
"Odin runs a grade-A mercenary group, selling his services to the likes of Marcone and God only knows who else."
seems to me that Marcone is the closest thing to a viking king that we have in modern times.
protect your own and declare war on the rest of the world and build up your kingdom stuff.
its not some fluke that Odin is helping Marcone.
also from the sagas Odin was from my point of view wandering around looking for power and knowledge more than to help people.
id say helping/nudging Harry Dresden might be the best way to gather a few more powerful objects or magic knowledge sets.
tons of directions Jim could go
IE the skin games items being in play now were reason enough to help him and now Dresden sorta owes him a favor. Also Jim hints at Odin having problems with the rest of his pantheon and maybe once he has enough leverage Mab style he will get Dresden to deal with it.
as for Ebeneezer i feel that starting the grey council is telling of his overall motives.
Hes done some bad stuff, hes probably darker than we think but still mostly fighting for the good and is on harry side unless he has good reason not to be.
DonBugen:
Thanks, guys! I'll write more when I can (prolly this weekend) but in the meantime, thanks for setting me straight on the WOJ for Eb and the Blackstaff, as well as Andi. I still haven't gotten to read the new anthology yet (I know, long year...) so that pretty much rules out most of the brain damage thing.
Also, wow, Andi and Butters still play WoW?
Also, to Slowpool on the Cowl thing - Cowl's not after the Word. He grabs Bob instead, something that the heirs don't even realize Harry has. Somehow, Cowl knows.
I detailed my Cowl theory on the below linked thread; it's a novella-sized post. I still stand by it and think it's the most literarily-sound theory. I've also pasted the "tldr" for conveniences' sake.
https://www.paranetonline.com/index.php/topic,48590.msg2284102.html#msg2284102
--- Quote ---TLDR: My evidence is this: the structure is there, in the Dresden Files, to suggest that such a reveal involving alternate universes, an alternate timeline, and time travel exist. It is suggested that the only way to start such a thing is to have a person travel through time and create a paradox. Butcher has already suggested Grave Peril as the point of paradox, and Harry as the catalyst, in the synopsis of Mirror Mirror. Creating this paradox by means of time travel would mean that there was a second older, more powerful Harry Dresden who would have to be hidden from the reader. Cowl is a more powerful wizard whose identity is hidden from the reader. He has many suspicious similarities to Harry and has no critical inconsistencies that would make it impossible for him to fulfill this role. Finally, Cowl being an alternative version of Harry would have major emotional significance to the main character.
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