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Theorycrafting - Mab is infected and the eventual death of Mab

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Cozarkian:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on April 11, 2019, 12:34:11 PM ---And if you read Changes closely, Leah has suppressed the infection, but isn't free of it.  Make of that what you will.

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Oh? Would you mind elaborating?


--- Quote from: groinkick on April 11, 2019, 05:50:19 PM ---I'm of the opinion that Mab is out of Nemesis's weight class.  I'm not saying she's more powerful, just that she's powerful enough to stop it's influence. 

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I agree to the extent. Again, it is like Harry/Lasciel. Harry isn't more powerful than Lasciel, but he had the ability to resist her at first contact and bury the coin. But Lasciel left a shadow and started speaking to his subconscious, eventually leading to the use of Hellfire and active attempts at subversion. Eventually Harry won the battle, resisted temptation and transformed the shadow into Lash, who sacrificed herself for him. But Mab doesn't have free will like Harry, so it might be impossible for her to win a long-term war with an entity that is trying to change her nature. She can and is winning battle after battle, but eventually, she'll start to lose ground and will fall.

Avernite:
In my opinion, Nemfection of Mab would not be lazy, it would be overdone. We've had two whole books driven by Fae Nemfection; one with Harry being clueless (Summer Knight), and one with him knowing (Cold Days). In addition, at least two other books (Proven Guilty and Small Favor) touched on said storyline without being dominated by it.

If Mab goes off the rails through Nemfection, Harry understands and is prepared. That's not the Harry we know, so it won't happen - in my opinion.

nadia.skylark:

--- Quote ---In my opinion, Nemfection of Mab would not be lazy, it would be overdone. We've had two whole books driven by Fae Nemfection; one with Harry being clueless (Summer Knight), and one with him knowing (Cold Days). In addition, at least two other books (Proven Guilty and Small Favor) touched on said storyline without being dominated by it.

If Mab goes off the rails through Nemfection, Harry understands and is prepared. That's not the Harry we know, so it won't happen - in my opinion.
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I agree. If we find out that Mab is nemfected, I believe that it will only be because Mab suicides to prevent it taking over, so that we can see the fallout from that. Whether she just kills herself and Winter has to reorganize around a new queen (probably at an extremely inconvenient time) or whether Mab suicides by attacking another powerful being (Titania? Ferrovax?) and everyone has to cope with the consequences, seeing that would be a lot more interesting than seeing yet another Faerie queen fall to nemfection.

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: Cozarkian on April 12, 2019, 06:15:42 PM ---Oh? Would you mind elaborating?

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--- Quote from: Changes pgs 107-108 (Kindle) ---   Something dark flickered through her emerald eyes, and she turned her face slightly away from me. “Indeed,” she said quietly. “You saw what it means for my queen to heal an affliction."
   “What affliction?”
   “A madness had beset me,” she whispered. “Robbed me of myself. Treacherous gifts . . .” She shook her head. “I can think on it no more, lest it make me vulnerable once again. Suffice to say that I am much better now.” She stroked a fingertip over an icy white streak in her hair. “The strength of my queen prevailed, and my mind is mine own.”

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Based on the fact Lea (presumably) can't lie, she seems to be healed and better but still susceptible to a recurrence. Or at least she believes she is.

I'm not sure about it being suppressed or gone or what.

Hankthemoose:
I don't like it. There is absolutely no breadcrumb trail to suggest Mab would be infected, and it would be truly and deeply lame from a plot point of view.

1.)Jim fucking LOVES breadcrumb trails and foreshadowing
2.)Jim is not a garbage author

therefore Mab is not infected.

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