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belgarion:
Nice job.
I like it, although I have to go through the text in detail now. I've got some thoughts, just haven't been able to sit down at the puter for very long due to a stomach virus. I've lost 10 pounds in about 5 days of this thing. First thought is to label the isthmus between Alera and Calderon. Oh, and the black hills should be labeled (at least I think they are the black hills) but those are nits. Its something about the positioning of Ceres and Founderport and the Tiber. Anyway, give me a couple of days to look and do searches.
Darn, I wish AutoRealm worked on the Mac. It makes a nice map.
Mikey
--- Quote from: Tsunami on February 11, 2009, 10:22:51 PM ---Ok, seems like i had a lot of spare time... well, not really, wich is why i passed my exams just barely this semester. :-)
On the other hand, i used the spare time i didn't actually have to dabble in the dark arts of Map-Making
I made a version of Alera with AutoRealm, and incorporated my ideas in it. I find it much easier to show my point if anyone can see what I'm talking about, so here it goes.
(Everything is of course still subject to change due to the Map Discussion Chat)
http://www.musterpuffer.de/JB/codex/alera.jpg
* Kalare attacks the "Foothills of Parcia" - so Parcia now touches Karale
* Atticus goes Accros the Floodplain to get to Kalares Legions - Floodplain moved accordingly (green arrows indicationg troop movements in CuF)
* Blackhills moved to southern Placida
* The Tiber now more or less forms the Border between Ceres and Placida
* To get all this done i moved the bordersin the western part around a little.
Plus:
I moved Calderon more to the North, it just feels like beeing more northerly. Following that i moved borders a bit for Aquitane and Riva.
Known issue:
Position of the Blackhills, and how Aquitane could be the one to take them back in CuF
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belgarion:
Oh and congrats on passing the exams. That's a big step :>). High fives Tsunami.
Any idea whether kokolores passed hers?
Mikey
--- Quote from: Tsunami on February 11, 2009, 10:22:51 PM ---Ok, seems like i had a lot of spare time... well, not really, wich is why i passed my exams just barely this semester. :-)
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Tsunami:
*reads through his last post... shakes his head*
Boy was my spelling off last night... ::)
--- Quote from: belgarion on February 11, 2009, 11:44:54 PM ---Oh and congrats on passing the exams. That's a big step :>). High fives Tsunami.
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Thanks, passing it was really all that mattered, since nobody will ever ask about the grade in this particular exam ever again. :D
--- Quote from: belgarion on February 11, 2009, 11:44:54 PM ---Any idea whether kokolores passed hers?
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No idea.
--- Quote from: belgarion on February 11, 2009, 11:42:21 PM ---Nice job.
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Thanks
--- Quote from: belgarion on February 11, 2009, 11:42:21 PM ---I like it, although I have to go through the text in detail now. I've got some thoughts, just haven't been able to sit down at the puter for very long due to a stomach virus. I've lost 10 pounds in about 5 days of this thing.
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Eager to hear them, and get well soon.
--- Quote from: belgarion on February 11, 2009, 11:42:21 PM ---First thought is to label the isthmus between Alera and Calderon. Oh, and the black hills should be labeled (at least I think they are the black hills) but those are nits.
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Yeah, still working on the nits ;)
--- Quote from: belgarion on February 11, 2009, 11:42:21 PM ---Its something about the positioning of Ceres and Founderport and the Tiber.
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Yupp, thats the only real major change i made in the Map, the rest is mostly cosmetics.
--- Quote from: belgarion on February 11, 2009, 11:42:21 PM ---Anyway, give me a couple of days to look and do searches.
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Sure, take your time, no rush.
Tsunami:
I've been thinking about the further development of the Map, and aside from all the discussion about what should be where, i think we need to look at the scale of the Map.
For Example: Calderon Valley.
In FoC i get the impression that the holders of calderon expected to get word to Riva in a manner of days by sending out riders.
That leads to me picturing Calderon Valley as being somewhere between 100 and 200 miles long.
The relative Dimensions we have right now would then put the width of Alera as a whole at about three times that distance, but we've seen plenty of indication that it is much bigger (i.e. Antillus being thousands of miles from the sea)
Yet, we cannot simply make the scale of the Map bigger, because that would lead to Calderon being more than a thousand miles long, and thats far to big for my taste. Especially when you take into consideration that most people in FoC traveled without the use of Furycraft for the better part of the time.
Sadly, distances are usualy only vaguely described in the Books, off the top of my head i can only think of a few instances:
* Founderport being about 20 miles from the Elinarch.
* The First Aleran being the only Legion in a 800 mile Radius, wich leads me to believe that Ceres should be about that far away from the Elinarch, since i see it as the closest big city.
* Gaius/Amara/Bernard starting their trek at about 300 miles southwest of Kalare.I bet there are more, but i don't remember them right now.
most other times Distance is referenced as Time-Travelled, wich is a bit difficult to put into a map.
Ok, whats the point of all this?
I guess to show that we need to take a look at distances in general in this World, and that i think that Calderon is to big right now :-)
belgarion:
Ah yes. We've talked about this a little, like when Amara flies 3000 miles from Alera Imperia to the Captain's tent east of Kalare. So we know that distance from CaF, the prologue. "She'd covered more than three thousand miles in the past three days,..." and ""The least I can do for someone who just beat the previous flight speed record from here to the capital by a full day..."
Other things, like the Red Hills are fairly close to Alera Imperia.
There have been other hints in the text. The battles around Founderport, Vaucusguard, River Aepon, Fellcove, Mastings, and Othos. There's a separate map for that in the collection. All these are from CaF. Koko etc. worked on the relative distances. Oh, we need to add those to the "big" map.
I guess the way to do this is to search for place names in the text and look for distance references. Kinda like those old math problems we used to have. a is 5 miles from b, b is 6 miles from c, e is next to a but not next to f, how far is a from f. Those kind. We have the same kind of jigsaw puzzle here. :~)
Mikey
--- Quote from: Tsunami on February 13, 2009, 06:25:25 PM ---I've been thinking about the further development of the Map, and aside from all the discussion about what should be where, i think we need to look at the scale of the Map.
For Example: Calderon Valley.
In FoC i get the impression that the holders of calderon expected to get word to Riva in a manner of days by sending out riders.
That leads to me picturing Calderon Valley as being somewhere between 100 and 200 miles long.
The relative Dimensions we have right now would then put the width of Alera as a whole at about three times that distance, but we've seen plenty of indication that it is much bigger (i.e. Antillus being thousands of miles from the sea)
Yet, we cannot simply make the scale of the Map bigger, because that would lead to Calderon being more than a thousand miles long, and thats far to big for my taste. Especially when you take into consideration that most people in FoC traveled without the use of Furycraft for the better part of the time.
Sadly, distances are usualy only vaguely described in the Books, off the top of my head i can only think of a few instances:
* Founderport being about 20 miles from the Elinarch.
* The First Aleran being the only Legion in a 800 mile Radius, wich leads me to believe that Ceres should be about that far away from the Elinarch, since i see it as the closest big city.
* Gaius/Amara/Bernard starting their trek at about 300 miles southwest of Kalare.I bet there are more, but i don't remember them right now.
most other times Distance is referenced as Time-Travelled, wich is a bit difficult to put into a map.
Ok, whats the point of all this?
I guess to show that we need to take a look at distances in general in this World, and that i think that Calderon is to big right now :-)
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