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Priscellie:
--- Quote from: Spyndel on January 14, 2009, 12:48:17 PM ---That's true of the existing map, but doesn't that need to be examined in light of what you said here:
If Ceres in in the Southeast, it screws all that up...not to mention confusing the entire issue of the Canim continent, since that's where they approach from.
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Actually, it works in the Alternate Map one of the other board members proposed. That's where Ceres and Kalare are with respect to Alera Imperia, in my mind. Bump Phrygia Placida a bit more to the east, swap the positions of Antillus and Phrygia, and Ceres and Phrygia share influence on that entire body of land. And anyway, just because two peoples are anti-slavery, it's not proof they actually do share geography! It was just something to think about. :D
As for the Canim continent, just shift it south a bit. It doesn't have to be on the same "level" as Carna. Maybe the nearest northernmost part is level with lower Ceres/upper Kalare/the Elinarch. I can doodle a picture of what I mean if this isn't clear, but I have to get to work now! :D
Spyndel:
Furthermore, if Ceres in in the Southeast, and coastal, I don't see how the Elinarch can be in the southern portion of it, as Cyril talks about moving west to the Elinarch in CuF, and how the Elinarch is on the only bridge on the entire *western leg* of the Tiber.
Unless those remarks are all relative, and not absolute.
*Sigh*, I give up. Somebody just make a map, and I'll paint it. ;)
Priscellie:
--- Quote from: Spyndel on January 14, 2009, 01:21:17 PM ---Furthermore, if Ceres in in the Southeast, and coastal, I don't see how the Elinarch can be in the southern portion of it, as Cyril talks about moving west to the Elinarch in CuF, and how the Elinarch is on the only bridge on the entire *western leg* of the Tiber.
Unless those remarks are all relative, and not absolute.
*Sigh*, I give up. Somebody just make a map, and I'll paint it. ;)
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Who ever said Ceres was in the east, much less coastal? All evidence puts Ceres in the west, just north of Kalare.
And whoops, in the message I posted earlier this morning, I accidentally wrote Phrygia instead of Placida in one spot. Now correcting...
Edit: OH. That idiot was ME. I meant that PF makes it clear Ceres is southwest of Alera Imperia. Yes, I have no concept of basic directions.
belgarion:
Tentative Princeps Fury Map of Cannea:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21582563@N03/3196245651/
Mikey
Spyndel:
--- Quote from: Priscellie on January 14, 2009, 02:45:51 PM ---
Edit: OH. That idiot was ME. I meant that PF makes it clear Ceres is southwest of Alera Imperia. Yes, I have no concept of basic directions.
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Oh, yes, that makes things much easier to put together. I was really choking on your *southeast* comment, trying to make that fit. And there's no idiocy involved here...I cant believe how much work you've all put into deciphering all these clues already. That you keep anything straight after all this is impressive.
I do, however, remember reading another comment in this thread that suggested Ceres was coastal, and not inland, though I dont know if that's valid or not, nor do i remember what the reasoning for it was.
[Edit]One further note though, if we take this quote to heart:
--- Quote ---Max frowned. "But Phrygia's thousands of miles from the sea and—oh."
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...then whether we place Phrygia East or West, we'll have to significantly alter the current shape of the land in order to bury Phrygia (and hence, a significant part of the shieldwall as well) that far inland. I dont know if there are any regions left we can faithfully buffer between Phrigia and the coast, if Ceres is now in the southwest, except maybe Placida....we may need to buffer it with some mountain ranges.
Truth be told, I dont even know how thats possible for Phrygia to be that far from the sea, without fundamentally changing the way we're envisioning the shield wall. Maybe the "shieldwall" is only the shield wall for a certain extent inland, and doesnt stretch from coast to coast. Maybe its buried between two natural impassable mountain ranges. Because with our current philosophy, if there are only two shield wall cities, then east or west, both of those cities will be adjacent to water.
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