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WAG: why Nicodemus wanted the knife
peregrine:
It's hard to say. Deirdre was enough of a true believer to sacrifice her life for the cause. It's possible Nic is as well.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---His coin with the Fallen within, keeps him alive. It seems counter intuitive.
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--- Quote ---It's hard to say. Deirdre was enough of a true believer to sacrifice her life for the cause. It's possible Nic is as well.
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Given that Nicodemus is enough of a fanatic to sacrifice his daughter, I figure he's enough of a fanatic to be willing to die himself.
Alternately, he could have been planning to use the grail or shroud to prevent himself from aging and dying.
Or he could just free 29 of the Fallen and keep Anduriel. They work together well enough that Anduriel might not mind.
morriswalters:
It wouldn't surprise me if the fallen were freed from the coins, maybe in the BAT. I couldn't speculate intelligently. I don't know who put them there or why. In their own way they are like the prisoners in Demonreach. Alfred says early on that the inmates of the prison are always dangerous, but least dangerous in the prison. Which pretty much describes the Fallen. Obviously Mab thinks the weapons will be needed. On the surface they appear to be modeled loosely on the One Ring if you find that helpful.
Cozarkian:
--- Quote from: nadia.skylark on February 19, 2019, 09:46:42 PM ---True, but I have a hard time believing that this is true in the Dresdenverse. For one thing, it destroys all tension--Harry has the Knife, ergo he will always win. For another thing, it undermines free will somewhat if the wielder will win no matter what anyone does.
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It doesn't destroy all tension if it is limited to the wielder of the knife cannot be defeated in battle. He can still be tricked, trapped, betrayed, or murdered, just not beat in a fight. It also doesn't destroy free will - you can always choose not to engage the wielder in a battle. Yes, the wielder might kill you - but that was the wielder's choice to do so.
DonBugen:
I don't think that Nicodemus would go through all that trouble, especially with sacrificing his daughter, if the grand prize was an item which had a slight improvement over the noose already around his throat.
Honestly, with this guy, I think there's only one or two things that he would give about anything for. My best guess is that the knife (if it IS the same spear which pierced Christ's side) is a conjunction, much in the same way that Halloween is - it's an item which allows the user to slay an immortal. Only instead of having to wait for a particular time, or approaching a being while IN the flow of time, it just gives them the ability to kill.
No real evidence, but it fits thematically both with who Nicodemus is, the small list of impossible things he'd sacrifice his daughter in order to accomplish, and known potential powers given the history of the item in question.
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