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Nemesis WAG
Yuillegan:
Alright guys, here is a pretty wild theory here.
In Marvel comics, there is a being of extraordinary power called Nemesis. It existed before the Universe (ultraverse/multiverse) and became tired of it's existence. It split itself six ways into the infinity stones. And that act was the Big Bang that destroyed the previous universe creating the current one.
Now we know that Jim is a good old marvel fan, and has been reading it a long time. Perhaps as part of his inspiration was this story.
I do not think that the Nemesis in the DF is the being that split into the Queens of Faerie, I think Hecate is still a strong connection there. But I do think then that perhaps the Nemesis in DF might well be something from before the Universe. I suspect that it might even be related. Perhaps even on the scale of a Creator itself. Why do I say that? Well just think about what it can do for a second. It can cause beings who cannot lie, to lie. It can corrupt the good and twist the evil into destroying themselves. It literally changes reality with it's corruption. It can take a way a mortal's free will. It does what even an Archangel cannot. That is TWG level power. It literally can create new futures - new realities - by taking away or subverting Free Will and Choice.
Thoughts?
Bad Alias:
The Outside existed before the creation of the Inside, so it is imminently plausible that Nemesis predates Creation.
By the way, in a story with the mortal world (existence as we know it in the real world), the Nevernever, the both of them (the Inside), parallel universes that fit in there somehow, and the Outside, do we have settled definitions for all that?
Creation: Everything not Outside (all the parallel mortal worlds and Nevernevers)?
Inside: Harry's mortal world and Nevernever unless otherwise stated?
Universe=Inside?
It's my understanding that there is just the one Outside attacking all realities, but I don't recall where I get that understanding, so I could easily be wrong.
Yuillegan:
True enough I think that Nemesis predates Creation - regardless of whether Nemesis is a Creator-level being or something only "merely" as powerful as one of the Walkers.
My theory is that the Outsiders hate Creation/Inside because it forces them to be partly real - as opposed to being spread the non-being in some semi-gestalt fashion that existing in non-existence might be. I think that is very painful and uncomfortable to Things that are not used to being real at all - and that pissed the Outside off. I do not believe they have what we understand as a Hive Mind - but I think something similar that still allows for individual personalities - and represents itself differently depending on which reality it is trying to get into.
And yes you are correct, there is just the one Outside attacking the continuum of possible realities i.e. Creation/Inside. I think that is mostly explained by that quote I linked you from Jim saying Outsiders look different depending on which Reality they are attacking. I think you can infer then that it is just the one group - similar to the Void in WoW or Abyss demons in DnD.
morriswalters:
Mildly incoherent this morning, but in the interest of random gibbering. Jim has given us some hints of the structure. Model the Never Never like fluid in a pipe. The water doesn't move at the surface of the pipe. The Never Never is the water touching the pipe. The boundary between Creation and everything outside it. The further away from the pipe wall the more stable reality.(evidenced by time being variable in the Never Never)
Given that the Sidhe don't have free will they aren't part of the multiverse. Humans only thank you. Human reality is like a tree with many branches. Each new branch representing a choice, but not all choices. Only important ones.(Vadderung in Cold Days referencing his model of temporal inertia) The Mothers can see the tree grow and branch.(Cold Days referencing Harry learning of the Adversary)
Why do the Outsiders want in? Who knows. But it could be more about opposition to the Creator rather than any property of Creation. Jealousy maybe? Or maybe they are a property of the void, anti Creation. Model this as entropy with the Outsiders representing the Heat Death of the Universe.(Empty night. If Jim loves physics, then as the universe expands there comes a point where there would be no stars to be seen in the night sky)
Sorry for going on :(
Salusen:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on February 06, 2019, 02:09:18 PM ---Mildly incoherent this morning, but in the interest of random gibbering. Jim has given us some hints of the structure. Model the Never Never like fluid in a pipe. The water doesn't move at the surface of the pipe. The Never Never is the water touching the pipe. The boundary between Creation and everything outside it. The further away from the pipe wall the more stable reality.(evidenced by time being variable in the Never Never)
Given that the Sidhe don't have free will they aren't part of the multiverse. Humans only thank you. Human reality is like a tree with many branches. Each new branch representing a choice, but not all choices. Only important ones.(Vadderung in Cold Days referencing his model of temporal inertia) The Mothers can see the tree grow and branch.(Cold Days referencing Harry learning of the Adversary)
Why do the Outsiders want in? Who knows. But it could be more about opposition to the Creator rather than any property of Creation. Jealousy maybe? Or maybe they are a property of the void, anti Creation. Model this as entropy with the Outsiders representing the Heat Death of the Universe.(Empty night. If Jim loves physics, then as the universe expands there comes a point where there would be no stars to be seen in the night sky)
Sorry for going on :(
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This actually makes a LOT of sense.
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