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Weird Inconsistency in Skin Game
Yuillegan:
Groinkick - I find that unlikely considering he had forced her into a lock that brought her to her knees. I can tell you as Purple Belt in BJJ, if some gets you that good, you will struggle to get up unless that is what they want. Not to mention she had just been shot in the got multiple times. But even if it were the case that she got up in between, why not describe the action? Jim normally is reasonably descriptive and in such a pivotal scene it would make logical sense to include such action in order to reinforce the dramatic nature of the following violence, which benches Murphy for the rest of the book.
From both a logical and writing perspective, it just doesn't add up.
Mira:
--- Quote from: groinkick on January 31, 2019, 06:41:23 AM ---It didn't happen so quickly as your put it here. There was dialogue between the two, along with Nicodemus twisting his shoulders and hurting her arm. During the time she was put on her knee's, and the time he kicked her knee it's believable, and likely that she had gotten up, or was partially up when the kick happened.
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It didn't happen quickly, because Nic didn't want it to... That simple, he was talking her conversationally, like he wasn't exerting himself in the least, and he wasn't, he let her know that
as well, kind of twisting the knife, rubbing salt in the wounds as he made them you might say. Once the Sword was broken, which was his first goal, again if she was shot in the belly, how did she manage to get the Sword to his throat? Nic allowed her to, he did the complete surrender thing, trying to kill him with the Sword at that point would get it broken... Task done..
Goal number 2, he wanted to break her.. Not just her body, which he did quite easily, but her mind and spirit as well... It remains to be seen how severe or permanent a job he did do.. It was never his goal to kill her.
morriswalters:
From the description as written I would assume that he twisted her so as to get her knee off the ground while leaving her foot planted. Giving him the position and leverage to do a lateral strike on the knee. You can test the positioning. The knee would be weakest in that position with the foot acting as a fulcrum.
The adjective he uses in the second paragraph is crumpled, as in on the floor in a heap or lying prone. When you are on your knees you are upright but not standing. I can't really judge the quality of the writing.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on February 03, 2019, 04:36:55 PM ---From the description as written I would assume that he twisted her so as to get her knee off the ground while leaving her foot planted. Giving him the position and leverage to do a lateral strike on the knee. You can test the positioning. The knee would be weakest in that position with the foot acting as a fulcrum.
The adjective he uses in the second paragraph is crumpled, as in on the floor in a heap or lying prone. When you are on your knees you are upright but not standing. I can't really judge the quality of the writing.
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All of that sounds about right.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Mira on February 03, 2019, 02:53:47 PM ---It didn't happen quickly, because Nic didn't want it to... That simple, he was talking her conversationally, like he wasn't exerting himself in the least, and he wasn't, he let her know that
as well, kind of twisting the knife, rubbing salt in the wounds as he made them you might say. Once the Sword was broken, which was his first goal, again if she was shot in the belly, how did she manage to get the Sword to his throat? Nic allowed her to, he did the complete surrender thing, trying to kill him with the Sword at that point would get it broken... Task done..
Goal number 2, he wanted to break her.. Not just her body, which he did quite easily, but her mind and spirit as well... It remains to be seen how severe or permanent a job he did do.. It was never his goal to kill her.
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I was just giving the plausibility of how Nick was able to kick Murphy's knee
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