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Margaret and a Coin? Harry's father murder?

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RobReece:
you don't need a coin to be headed south and anyone can be redeemed.

Chauncy and his Dark Prince probably saw her power and mindset and thought they had it in the bag.  It just took a "good man" like Malcolm to turn her around.  Could be a nice story some day.  I could see someone want to strike at Malcolm for ruining their plans for Margaret.  But I don't think he was more or less than a stage magician.

morriswalters:

--- Quote from: Mira on January 16, 2019, 11:15:20 PM ---Before she met Malcolm she may have at the very least toyed with the idea.   After all, in her mind what did she have to lose?  The Wardens were after her, most likely she would have lost her head.  She was pissed in general at the "system," she was living with the ruler of the White Court, had a kid by him, hung out with a lot of other unsavory characters..  She may have even been one of the charter members of the Black Council for that matter..

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There are quotes that support it.
--- Quote from: Changes ---They had some scheme they wanted my support on. The vampires thought I was just Maggie’s mentor, then.”

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This was what Maggie did, scheme.  So it isn't out of the question.  I don't know.  But the books through Skin Game have pounded on two themes, Lea's debt to Margaret  and the Black Council.
As an interesting side issue, I think Peace Talks may be foreshadowed in Changes. :)
--- Quote ---A thousand years of jungle hadn’t managed to bring the place down, but half an hour of slugfest between practitioners who know what they’re doing can leave city blocks in ruins. It was later attributed to an extremely powerful localized earthquake.
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Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Mr. Death on January 16, 2019, 09:26:49 PM ---the couple times that Justin actually acts like a father toward Harry mean the world to him.
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With the way Jim writes, I think that sentence makes it more likely that it was Justin.

groinkick:

--- Quote from: RobReece on January 17, 2019, 12:53:16 AM ---you don't need a coin to be headed south and anyone can be redeemed.

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That's true but Chauncy said "The Dark Prince lost her"....  It seems to me that it was more than her just being a bad person, the dark side was actively working with her.  This book was before we ever heard of the Coins, and my opinion is Jim dropped it here knowing that it would be likely forgotten when we were introduced to them, but then recognized in future books.

That all being said, Chauncy wanted Harry to join the dark side.  I wonder if Harry had agreed he'd have been offered a Coin, or would he work with them from a different angle?

RobReece:

--- Quote from: groinkick on January 17, 2019, 04:56:33 AM ---That all being said, Chauncy wanted Harry to join the dark side.  I wonder if Harry had agreed he'd have been offered a Coin, or would he work with them from a different angle?

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That would be dependent on who controls access to the coins. So far on screen we haven't seen anyone outside of Nic giving coins away, we don't have much indication that  Chauncey and his ilk would have any influence on who gets them. As Dierdre said, maybe he is trying to save the world.

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