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Lea and the Adversary
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@morriswalters: Lea is Harry's godmother and must do whatever that entails. I considered going through the books and getting everything people say about what a godmother is, but I figured it would keep me up too late. My first thoughts were what Aurora says in Summer Knight and what Lea says in Ghost Story about education. There are other tidbits here and there, but I doubt I could remember them all.
@prince lotore: I think the infection isn't that easy to spread. I think every instance of someone doing bad/outsider friendly things isn't because they are infected. I also think humans can be infected. Lily definitely believed humans could be infected, but she also believed she could detect it so that doesn't give us a definitive answer. I do think Maeve didn't lie about everything because that would make it easier to find out she could lie. Also, Harry was cautioned against using the name Nemesis because it could draw its attention. Now I imagine that would be bad whether or not Nemesis could infect humans because it would make Nemesis aware that Harry was aware of it, but Nemesis is already aware of Harry and that he knows of Nemesis by the time he learns the name.
As to Mira's point, the way Nemesis operates is a lot like how Peabody operated in mind controlling everybody. He did it subtly except where it couldn't be observed or when he had already been caught. Not being noticed is the whole point of using covert instead of overt methods.
morriswalters:
Godmothers succor children. Lea got onboard when Harry is effectively was an adult. And then she bound him in various forms of debt and obligation. But never has she spoken directly in terms of knowledge that has power without making Harry pay the piper. Which was why I thought she might be infected in Summer Knight.
My model for the infection is the coins. Touch them and you are infected. But insidiously. Much in the same vein of Harry and Lash.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on January 14, 2019, 09:35:38 PM ---Godmothers succor children. Lea got onboard when Harry is effectively was an adult. And then she bound him in various forms of debt and obligation. But never has she spoken directly in terms of knowledge that has power without making Harry pay the piper. Which was why I thought she might be infected in Summer Knight.
My model for the infection is the coins. Touch them and you are infected. But insidiously. Much in the same vein of Harry and Lash.
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No, long before that, she made a promise to Harry's mother to protect him... Now if the Enemy knows he is a star born it makes sense that they'd try to infect and pervert her to get to Harry. Also consider her actions which frightened Harry to such a degree that he'd grab Michael's Sword and try to kill her, thus losing it to her.. Now she had something to bring to the party, gain the Knife and in the process a Holy Sword would be unmade.. Yeah, I seriously doubt that Lea didn't know what would happen to the Sword once she gave it up.. More evidence that her mind was being affected, long before she had the Knife in her possession..
segaily:
--- Quote from: Mira on January 14, 2019, 11:33:12 PM ---No, long before that, she made a promise to Harry's mother to protect him... Now if the Enemy knows he is a star born it makes sense that they'd try to infect and pervert her to get to Harry. Also consider her actions which frightened Harry to such a degree that he'd grab Michael's Sword and try to kill her, thus losing it to her.. Now she had something to bring to the party, gain the Knife and in the process a Holy Sword would be unmade.. Yeah, I seriously doubt that Lea didn't know what would happen to the Sword once she gave it up.. More evidence that her mind was being affected, long before she had the Knife in her possession..
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While I agree with the first part of this that if the Enemy knows he is a star born it makes sense that they'd try to infect and pervert Lea. I would not however take Lea's attempt to get the sword as evidence of anything. The sword is primarily a weapon against the fallen not outsiders. Winter fights outsiders not fallen why would winter or Lea care if the fallen gain an advantage as long as they were getting something they considered just as good or better.
Lea could have even considered it her duty to help Harry to learn a lesson and that he should have known he did not need try the sword.
Mira:
--- Quote from: segaily on January 15, 2019, 12:22:01 AM ---While I agree with the first part of this that if the Enemy knows he is a star born it makes sense that they'd try to infect and pervert Lea. I would not however take Lea's attempt to get the sword as evidence of anything. The sword is primarily a weapon against the fallen not outsiders. Winter fights outsiders not fallen why would winter or Lea care if the fallen gain an advantage as long as they were getting something they considered just as good or better.
Lea could have even considered it her duty to help Harry to learn a lesson and that he should have known he did not need try the sword.
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Advantage was using Lea as a cat's paw to gain further access to the Winter Court though the Knife.
While Lea would think as you say, all the while she was being used for a greater goal, infiltration of the Winter Court, it's principle foe..
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