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Mira:

--- Quote from: Dina on December 10, 2019, 01:39:50 PM ---I agree. Also, Butters have faith in the red cross or, better, in what it represents. Yes, the origin is the Christian symbol, but now it stands for medicine and hellping people in most parts of the world and clearly in USA, so Butter grew up with that meaning. He has literally served under that sign for years. Besides, Butters is not obtuse. Whatever his faith he knows the importance of symbols, and knights like Arthur's round table ones are powerful symbols.

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  I  don't think it is about what religion is followed by the Knight,  as in Sanya's case, it is none.   Butters isn't a Christian, but he is faithful, the Sword that he wields is about faith not what door he chooses to walk through to get to God.

morriswalters:
The medical symbol is the Caduceus, not a cross.  And the Red Cross is symbolic of the Swiss Flag where the International Red Cross was founded.  The cross is a symbol of the crucifix, wherein the three nails affixed to the swords are thought to be from. And since the rules expressly forbid taking this any further I'll stop.

I hope Butter's story line works out.  Jim can't unwrite it.

noblehunter:
To skip back a few topics, I think Peace Talks will be a sort of test for Butcher. So far, he's avoided the bloat that afflicts many long running series but it's been partially due to the fact that the series since Harry's death hasn't involved a lot of politics. There's been some expansive world building, notably regarding the Outer Gates, but not much time spent on what the world looks like since the end of the Red Court. Peace Talks looks like it will break from that trend which risks turning into a sprawling mess of plots and counter-plots. Which is a bit ironic given that I've been waiting years to get info about the new balance of power but if writing was easy everyone would do it.

dspringer1:

--- Quote ---The swords, like Mouse, like pretty much any really significant power - are incredible and unstoppable in the right circumstances. Mouse powered up by the Carpenter house is much stronger than when powered up by Dresden's poor threshold ("from the Thing to the Hulk" WOJ). The Archangels and the Mothers and the Walkers are incredibly powerful, but only in very specific situations. Choice seems to unlock the power, but so does destiny (which one could argue is the result of a line of choices - no wonder you can't fight fate). Harry was never a Knight of the Cross, and so could never wield a blade like one. Although I do admit, Jim does seem to vary the powers of the Swords a lot. Early Michael was way less powerful than later Michael, despite the damaged leg. Karen makes them all look pitiful, and despite Shiro supposedly being a Sword-Saint we never saw him unleash the way Karen did. Sanya is as true KotC but has he ever been as strong as the others? A good argument might be that Jim needed to super-charge them for the writing later in the series as events demanded. Also perhaps one could argue as the stakes get higher, so does the power of the swords increase (we are getting close to the end of the world).
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This was explained in one of the books.  The power of the knights (or the swords if you like) is not fixed.   Their purpose is to balance the scales so that human skill, will and morality will decide the battle, not supernatural power.  So if the knight needs to fight two vampires, you get power X.   If the knight needs to battle a frigging dragon, he gets power 5X. 

I suspect there is a range of possible power.  A knight can probably easily kill any normal vampire 1-1, so there seems to be a minimum power level.   And the top end a knight can channel also appears to be limited.   Murphy was apparently a VERY powerful knight in Changes, while Sanya appears to be of more typical Knight power.  And even Murphy and Sanya together were insufficient to beat all the vampires in that last battle.  Not even close. 

g33k:

--- Quote from: dspringer1 on December 10, 2019, 04:54:05 PM ---This was explained in one of the books.  The power of the knights (or the swords if you like) is not fixed.   Their purpose is to balance the scales ...
...   And even Murphy and Sanya together were insufficient to beat all the vampires in that last battle.  Not even close.
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In fact, Murphy and Sanya DID beat all the Vampires:  they were sufficient to stop them from reaching Harry in time to stop HIM.

As you say, they have however much power they need to "balance" the conflict.

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