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Any news on Peace Talks
Mr. Death:
The Fomor are specifically noted as avoiding places with wizards, so if anything, I imagine it's the other way around -- the White Council attacking Fomor outposts and giving them a bloody nose.
I mean, think about it, the three major Fomor stories we have right now are:
(click to show/hide)1. Even Hand, where the Fomor try and fail to take on Marcone, resulting in the death of a major Fomor sorcerer;
2. Aftermath, where Murphy and two of the Alphas wreck an entire Fomor cell by themselves.
And 3. Bombshells, where Molly helps take out one of their dudes.
So all in all, the Fomor are not fairing very well in straight fights, even against mostly mortal forces. So I doubt they've gone and given the White Council a bloody nose -- but they might be using the Peace Talks to try and take some of them out, like they tried in Bombshells.
Kindler:
Well, yeah, they've gotten their butts handed to them when we've seen them fight characters with Plot Armor. I'm just judging from the information we got between Ghost Story and Skin Game, which kinda indicated that the Council was scrambling, to the point that they pretty much ignore North America to maintain order in Europe (with the exception of Bill, Carlos (currently out of action), and maybe another warden or two I can't remember).
Regardless, I phrased it poorly; I didn't mean that the Council was losing , especially not open confrontations. I meant that the Council was fighting a war of attrition, and not doing great. I mean, one dead wizard is more of a blow than, what, a hundred dead Fomor servitors? I don't know how many of them there are, I'm just going based on Fantasy Rules (for every "hero," there are approximately one quadrillion orcs/goblins/Red Court Vampires/Lilliputians.)
segaily:
As of April 4th, 2019, the current draft of the novel is up to chapter 56.
I must say wow the book is getting long and Jim is really knocking out chapters lately.
KurtinStGeorge:
--- Quote from: Kindler on April 04, 2019, 07:14:25 PM ---Well, yeah, they've gotten their butts handed to them when we've seen them fight characters with Plot Armor. I'm just judging from the information we got between Ghost Story and Skin Game, which kinda indicated that the Council was scrambling, to the point that they pretty much ignore North America to maintain order in Europe (with the exception of Bill, Carlos (currently out of action), and maybe another warden or two I can't remember).
Regardless, I phrased it poorly; I didn't mean that the Council was losing , especially not open confrontations. I meant that the Council was fighting a war of attrition, and not doing great. I mean, one dead wizard is more of a blow than, what, a hundred dead Fomor servitors? I don't know how many of them there are, I'm just going based on Fantasy Rules (for every "hero," there are approximately one quadrillion orcs/goblins/Red Court Vampires/Lilliputians.)
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Your post makes me wonder about Marcone and the White Court and what kind of losses they have been taking to hold onto the territory they claim within Chicago. I remember the negotiation session Murphy had with Marcone's proxy in Ghost Story when they traded small bits of territory. I don't remember the specifics of what their negotiation was about, but the important thing is that Murphy's people and Marcone would have to be willing to fight to hold on to what they had against the Fomor. The same is true for Lara Raith and the rest of the White Court.
Now Marcone and Lara could use hired guns, but that would get pretty expensive because they would have to be highly trained people to go up against Fomor servitors. Not the same thing as hiring people for a one time job like Marcone did in the Raith Deeps. It makes me wonder how much Marcone and Lara would want a settlement with the Fomor or if either or both would really like the White Council to go all out against the Fomor and solve their problem for them.
--- Quote from: segaily on April 04, 2019, 07:58:41 PM ---As of April 4th, 2019, the current draft of the novel is up to chapter 56.
I must say wow the book is getting long and Jim is really knocking out chapters lately.
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We should have had pool going to guess how many chapters this book will have.
Kindler:
--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on April 05, 2019, 03:31:42 AM ---Your post makes me wonder about Marcone and the White Court and what kind of losses they have been taking to hold onto the territory they claim within Chicago. I remember the negotiation session Murphy had with Marcone's proxy in Ghost Story when they traded small bits of territory. I don't remember the specifics of what their negotiation was about, but the important thing is that Murphy's people and Marcone would have to be willing to fight to hold on to what they had against the Fomor. The same is true for Lara Raith and the rest of the White Court.
Now Marcone and Lara could use hired guns, but that would get pretty expensive because they would have to be highly trained people to go up against Fomor servitors. Not the same thing as hiring people for a one time job like Marcone did in the Raith Deeps. It makes me wonder how much Marcone and Lara would want a settlement with the Fomor or if either or both would really like the White Council to go all out against the Fomor and solve their problem for them.
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Yeah, that scene was a little telling for me. Marcone and the White Court have the resources to hold Chicago reasonably well, but the Paranet review during that meeting indicates that the world is a very, very scary place for those without an organization backing you up. I would imagine Marcone would be interested in a deal that eliminates or mitigates the Fomor threat... but I also have the sense that Marcone would be extremely reticent to actually give up the territory he's holding, especially to the White Council. Lara and Marcone are using the chaos to expand, I think (actually, doesn't Thomas say that Lara's been particularly aggressive, going for national influence?). The White Council probably wouldn't care which crime lord runs Chicago, so long as it isn't the Fomor.
--- Quote ---We should have had pool going to guess how many chapters this book will have.
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I'm in! Twenty bucks on 62.
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