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apgrey:
  The issue as described by Bob in Dead Beat is, yes Harry ordered Bob to forget what he knew from his years with Kemmler.  However, when Cowl had possession, he could reverse that order.
  So, after the events in Dead Beat Bob undertook to get rid of that knowledge permanently.  He did this be splitting off Evil Bob.  He did not seem to recall doing this, but it must have happened shortly after the end of Dead Beat.

APG

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: apgrey on November 14, 2018, 12:21:00 PM ---  The issue as described by Bob in Dead Beat is, yes Harry ordered Bob to forget what he knew from his years with Kemmler.  However, when Cowl had possession, he could reverse that order.
  So, after the events in Dead Beat Bob undertook to get rid of that knowledge permanently.  He did this be splitting off Evil Bob.  He did not seem to recall doing this, but it must have happened shortly after the end of Dead Beat.

APG

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This is the only internally consistent explanation that I can think of. My problem with it is that I don't believe Bob wouldn't have realized he would fall outside of Harry's possession. He's been in the possession of at least two or three* wizards before Harry. I think that it was actually a continuity error that can be explained away.

Maybe splitting Evil Bob off was something that would take time and effort, and Bob hadn't been able to accomplish it when Kumori took possession of him. Having not completed the task, it was interrupted by Cowl's order to help with the Darkhallow. I think that's going be my explanation until something shows otherwise.

*It's been said or implied both that Etienne created the skull sanctum and that it was his skull, as in what housed his brain. I can't remember all the details.

dspringer1:
Bob almost certainly knows how to create a dark hallow.  He was, after all, there when the dark hallow ritual was formed.  And by there I mean there on Harry's side (while occupying a dinosaur).   

Harry had him forget the Kemler bits, but that would not apply to the bits he learned while serving Harry.   Also keep in mind that the dark hallow principle was incredibly obvious to the wardens when Harry explained what was going on. It is pretty obvious that Bob could have been equally quick to understand the basic mechanics based off a very quick observation. 

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: dspringer1 on November 14, 2018, 06:31:33 PM ---Bob almost certainly knows how to create a dark hallow.  He was, after all, there when the dark hallow ritual was formed.  And by there I mean there on Harry's side (while occupying a dinosaur).   

Harry had him forget the Kemler bits, but that would not apply to the bits he learned while serving Harry.   Also keep in mind that the dark hallow principle was incredibly obvious to the wardens when Harry explained what was going on. It is pretty obvious that Bob could have been equally quick to understand the basic mechanics based off a very quick observation.

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The point isn't that Bob knows how after Dead Beat or that Bob could figure it out during Dead Beat. The point is that Bob knew how Kemmler had described the Darkhallow after Harry had ordered Bob to permanently forget his time with Kemmler, limiting Bob to only general knowledge of Kemmler.

dspringer1:
Half right.  He ordered Bob to forgot his time with Kemler.  He did NOT limit Bob to only general knowledge.   Bob was limited to what he learned about Kemler from the time he was not with Kemler.  That means (in practice) only general knowledge at the beginning of Dead Beat.   But the order was specific to Kemler, not information about Kemler.   

Harry was targeting the evil personality of Bob. 

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